Runners
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@Nik Feels good and disappointing at the same time. Completely different beast today from my normal training and I was NOT prepared. The north loop was more technical than I was led to believe and pushed me routinely out of my comfort zone. The trip hazards got me multiple times with more than a few falls. I also caught myself a few times which hurt just as much as hitting the ground.
Completely agree with you guys about training for the conditions of the race. The only reason I was able to finish was the conditioning built up over the last 10 months but my performance would have improved with the proper training.
I can honestly say that I did not have any reserves left at the end of the race as you can tell by the grimace
I’m too stubborn to quit, but someone would have been told to get bent if there was a mistake and a additional kilometre was needed 
Right now, I will say that I will not run this race again…a week from now may be a different story.
@Tago-Mago The girls did awesome and knocked 7 minutes off of their time from last year and I think that they all had fun. At least no one is killing each other at the moment
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A race is the best way to learn, and it sounds like you learned a lot. Mostly that you have the guts to finish even when it is hard. Great stuff.
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Need your advice on off season training. Last year I ran when weather permitted, basically just putting in miles with no specific goal other than to maintain some sort of fitness. It helped and when I started training in the spring, felt much better than years before.
After the 25 km trail run, I've realized I need to do more strength training (what caused me the most problems in my race), and run more on trail conditions. I've picked up a pair of running snowshoes to try winter trail running and look for some advice on what you guys do.
Cross training, strength sessions, rowing...
Appreciate any help!!!
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@goosehd all your ideas sound great to me. Lots of the pros spend significant periods of the off season cross training, sometimes with no running: Jim Walmsley, Sophia Laukli, and Remi Bonnet seem to all give up running completely in the winter and just do skimo. Others bike. Lots of coaches are pushing more and heavier strength training for running, twice or more a week. In an ideal world the off season would also be a good time to focus on the non-training lifestyle habits that could make big gains such as diet and sleep, but for me at least those things are 100 times harder than going for a run.
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Getting out there is the point, there’s always people going faster/slower than you
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@Alex ran a marathon in Korea one year and I had little old ladies passing me on the hills. Definitely a humbling experience.
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Need a new pair of running shorts, the zipper finally went on the pair I've had for 15+ years and is not repairable.
My runs are typically with the dog, so for pleasure and easy-going, just aiming to get some low intensity cardio in. My usual route to- through- and back-from- the park is 6-7.5km depending on the route taken in the park. Stopping occasionally to pick up poop, or wait for dog to realise he's fallen behind and catch up. Pocket-wise, I'd need small ones for a house-key, a few doggy poo-bags, and some motivational dog treats.
Who's making good running shorts these days? Any recommends for my needs?
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@Nik you’ve turned my head towards this brand a few times but always talk myself into a cheaper alternative and to save that scrap for IH. I suffer from nipple chaffing on longer runs (sounds funny but very unpleasant amidst a run) and strongly considering one of their tops
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@flannel-slut man that is definitely a fabric texture thing. I had one running shirt that was a little rough and did a race and I had no idea what I was feeling. Nips got rubbed raw and I threw that shirt out.
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@Nik Dayum! If I was running ultras like you I think I could justify those. Still, it has been good to compare those shorts and figure out the little details that I should be looking out for in an alternative. Thanks!
