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    • goosehdG
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      @Giles Have any of the celebratory fools who reveled in joy when Brexit passed, change their tune? I think you spoke of a few people who you knew that were pro Brexit and wonder if they have seen the error of their ways.

      Also, has anything actually improved post referendum for the UK workers? Really looking for any UK person on this to respond to hear their thoughts and views (without getting into the political aspect).

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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      • gazza61G
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        all I know is all the people who wanted this madness do not want to talk about it anymore.

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        • Tago MagoT
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          @endo the sausages have always been great. No need to involve an innocent sausage in this unsavoury discussion

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          • endoE
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            Sorry, you're right @Tago-Mago I've always loved the English sausages.

            si tacuisses

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            • mclaincauseyM
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              @goosehd from what I know of those sorts (dumbasses), they aren’t capable or willing of introspection and admitting their wrongs, no matter how obvious they are. They’ll engage in some Olympic level mental gymnastics to maintain their false rectitude, and with their remarkable ability to hold mutually exclusive / contradictory ideas or positions contemporaneously, there’s nothing you can say to make them amend their incoherent position.

              Think it, be it.

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              • TobiT
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                @mclaincausey I agree, but would add that this is a general feature of the human psychology, and we are all doing it one way or another. Look at me: just reached the conclusion that I have 10 IH shirts too many, but immediately apply Olympics level mental gymnastics to justify just that one more CPO released next week to myself 🙂

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                • Sir_Cuffs-a-LotS
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                  @mclaincausey said in Brexshit:

                  contemporaneously

                  My goal is to use this word today. Thank you 🙂

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                  • Sir_Cuffs-a-LotS
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                    Welcome to the forum - come for the denim, stay for an education 👍

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                    • GilesG
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                      @goosehd said in Brexshit:

                      @Giles Have any of the celebratory fools who reveled in joy when Brexit passed, change their tune? I think you spoke of a few people who you knew that were pro Brexit and wonder if they have seen the error of their ways.

                      Also, has anything actually improved post referendum for the UK workers? Really looking for any UK person on this to respond to hear their thoughts and views (without getting into the political aspect).

                      I don't know of any pro-brexiteer who would in retrospect change their vote, but I am 100% sure that if the vote was to happen again today, there would be an overwhelming vote to stay.

                      I know of zero post Brexit benefits to anyone.

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • goosehdG
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                        In some ways I can understand the reasoning for people who voted yes in the referendum.

                        Growing up in WV, my opportunities would have been extremely limited due to the local economic conditions. Our family would not have been able to send me to school and the local jobs in my area would have been in the coal mining industry or supporting trades. The biggest issues with the mining industry was health related issues and a lack of job security. The local people often thought next week, next month, or next year would be better with that day never coming. My only option at the time was to join the military to try and find that success.

                        I think there is an overall growing discontent with the current standards of living and a longing for better days of old and/or the future. People are tired of seeing their jobs being shipped overseas and want to regain a little control over their lives again. For some, I think the idea of being able to bring back those jobs in fisheries, manufacturing, mining, etc. was appealing without the understanding that things may never return back to previous standards.

                        Not really saying their reasoning is wrong or right, but I can understand that desire to live a comfortable life.

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                        • GilesG
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                          Or that they would actually have to do the shitty jobs themselves (which, of course, they don't because they are fucking lazy and entitled) when all of the EU workers who had been working here had to go home. Can we get cooks, chefs, and waiting staff for our restaurants anymore? No. Well you can, but you have to pay through the nose for the staff, that extra cost gets pushed down to the end customer, as does the increase in food costs across the board as the result of the post-Brexit regs.

                          This is not a shitty job story, but when Paula was being treated for cancer, not one of the nurses who looked after her was from the UK, they were all from The EU. They aren't here any longer.

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • goosehdG
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                            ... and the biggest issue I see was that the people who dreamed up Brexit, sold it to the voting masses, and implemented it have done the biggest disservice to your country that may affect it for decades to come. Any of that group who have profited from it, should ultimately never be allowed to profit or govern again.

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                            • mclaincauseyM
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                              There’s a reason that enemies of Europe, NATO, and the UK were funding the movement…

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • gazza61G
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                                look at dyson promoted brexit with all his money then moved all his operations abroad.

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                                  I can barely discuss this subject without raging at the self inflicted stupidity of it all. Some of the rationale from people was bewildering.
                                  Some treated it as a protest vote , without giving a second’s thought for the impact that it would have.
                                  Elderly people who had rose tinted memories of a country that no longer exists, and would never live long enough to see their perceived benefits of brexit. Their grandchildren will pay a high price for their shortsightedness.
                                  People who blamed ‘foreigners’ for taking their jobs, even though they don’t want to do the jobs themselves. They have no interest in picking fruit, or working in hospitality, or working in hospitals or in the care system, and are now shocked that pubs are closing, food prices are through the roof and they can’t get a doctor’s or hospital appointment.
                                  And the stupidity of believing in some of the biggest charlatans in UK politics in my lifetime.
                                  I could go on but would be banned from the forum if I said more.

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                                  • G
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                                    You’re not alone on this and I bore myself with how often I go in about it, but it makes my blood boil too.

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                                    • goosehdG
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                                      @IrishHeart Fantastic insights and summation...

                                      I wish all of you the best to those parties affected and I think it is going to be a long, difficult journey to any type of normalcy again.

                                      This has been a fantastic discussion today and I want to thank all of you for participating.

                                      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      • KasiK
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                                        Overall picture of UK is blood been suck out.

                                        It was worse being in EU and still
                                        worse now.

                                        To sort anything out stop spending stupid money, that’s has nothing do with UK

                                        You can’t blame people who want out or in.

                                        Its was government who fuck it all up.

                                        80’s 90’s was best time for Uk
                                        Mids 90’s things starting to wrong

                                        The world's insane
                                        While you drink champagne
                                        And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                                        • Tago MagoT
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                                          @Kasi said in Brexshit:

                                          80’s 90’s was best time for Uk

                                          I may have to check in with some of my relatives as I fear their brains just exploded. Some people might disagree with you. Let's leave it at that, I don't want to cause undue stress to our very patient mods

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                                          • KasiK
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                                            I live here over 40 years

                                            Seen it to be saying it.
                                            Not making it up.
                                            That’s my opinion

                                            The world's insane
                                            While you drink champagne
                                            And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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