Watches - another OCD problem
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@VoodooRay very nice! I love the deployant clasp.
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Oris have just announced a new version of the ProPilot that @Anesthetist is eyeing up. But rather than include Miss Piggy, they've used lasers to cut what I suspect is an interference pattern into a titanium dial to produce a colour-shifting finish. Monochrome has more details.
H. Moser & Cie have slimmed the Streamliner down, and this will probably pose a threat to @JDelage's wallet. Again, see Monochrome.
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Love that Oris. I thought I saw a similar dial on a Moser Streamliner on the gram but can’t find it now and maybe it was a trick of the lighting in the photo on the blue enamel model.
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I love those two watches. The Streamliner is $30k though, which is a big jump from the original Streamliner. It's a new calibre too I think, with a micro-rotor. Those are cool. No threat to my wallet, as I still like my Green Dragon better. I'm happy to see Moser continuing to breathe life into the Streamliner line. For a minute, I did wonder whether it would be a one-off, but it's definitely not the case.
The Oris dial reminds me a bit of black mother-of-pearl, which I like very much.
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The Oris is cool and I do like it although not as much as the Muppet (sentimental ties run deep).
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Went to see my favourite antique dealer friend today (@ROman & @chap). He told me he had done a couple of good house clearances recently. In one, he found some nice watches and offered the seller X for everything in the house. Offer accepted. I asked him what the watches were, and he reeled off a few Cartiers and Tiffanys and the like and then added "oh and this one", he pulled up his cuff to show me a rather nice IWC Portofino, "Yeah, I found it in a box under the sofa, and thought, oh fuck it, I'll have that for me"....
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Portofino is a classic and under-appreciated watch
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The PF Tonda is beautiful, but personally I find this GMT feature very gimmicky. It's a 12hr scale, so you don't know whether the home time is AM or PM. They also didn't include a date, which is prettier but kinda lazy in a GMT watch. I'd rather get the plain Tonda.
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All fair points
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I'm not sure if the twelve-hour GMT function would be a problem in practice. I've generally got a reasonably good idea of where relative times stand. If I had the watch set to Australian Eastern Time (8 pm at the time of writing) and the secondary time set to Pacific Time in the US (1 o'clock), then I could deduce that it's 1 am in California, not 1 pm, and therefore not call.
Other than that, it's a pretty watch, and the GMT rattrapante mechanism looks fun. Finishing seems good in photos, but I haven't seen one in the metal.
If you're after alternatives, the Bulgari Octo Finissimo Chronograph has a GMT function and is about $10K less. The Patek Phillipe 5212a is $10K more and doesn't have the complication, but will hold its value better. LUC offers a GMT and a world-timer in a variety of materials. The IWC Timezoner has probably got the neatest time zone complication.
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I think this is may fave.....
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Have any of you watch experts got any opinions on the Tudor Black Bay 54?
https://www.tudorwatch.com/en/watch-family/black-bay-54
I have been offered one by my AD. I do like the look and the size works for anyone with a wrist of 7 inches or less (17.75cm).
Just can’t make my mind up on the vintage gilt finish.
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Man Bulgari Octo are so friggin cool. I’ve moved on from chronographs mostly but it’s such a cool, creative, modern design. I think Pf wins for me among those designs but the LUC GMT seems like such an eminently functional, legible piece. It also looks a bit prosaic which I kind of like as an under the radar thing.
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@IrishHeart I share the quite mainstream opinion that they are gorgeous and I feel a pretty good value. You get Rolex tech and support in a classic design that will pair with any outfit or context.
The one quibble I have is with the faux rivets on the bracelets but that’s not a huge deal. It would be high on my list if I were in the market for a fine timepiece.
I also love the Pelagos and especially its bracelet and lumed bezel. The text on the dial on that one probably bothers me more than the rivets on the BB.
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@mclaincausey thanks for your input.
I am really quite keen to treat myself, and am unlikely to afford a Rolex anytime soon.
I know what you mean about the faux rivets, but they don’t bother me too much. I do wonder why Tudor persists with them when the feedback is usually negative about them.When I saw the AD a few weeks ago, he also had it on the black rubber strap which I thought suited it. The bracelet is probably more classic, but do you have any preference?
The bracelet was only about £170 more which surprised me. I thought there be a bigger differential, although the rubber does also come with the T-fit clasp which is nice.Thanks again for your input.
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Man I’d go for it. For me the faux rivet thing isn’t a big deal and of all models it makes the most sense on this one because it is almost a reproduction, so I’d absolutely buy the bracelet and probably some aftermarket leather options. I think I’d take this one over the 58 but it’s close.
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@IrishHeart I agree with @mclaincausey about Tudor quality, value, &c. The black bay range doesn’t do it for me but if you like it, then I don’t think you’ll be disappointed. I’ve been very happy with my Fastrider Chrono despite some of its obvious quirks.
The strap vs bracelet is really down to preference. If you’re likely to use both, it’s usually cheaper to buy the watch with the bracelet and buy additional straps separately, but otherwise just go with whatever you think works best for you.
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the recent tudors with the new movements are definitely worth every penny. I'd go for it in an instant. bracelet or rubber strap is a personal preference. the rubber is a nice change. but if you go bracelet, you have more flexibility in changing into others like NATO or even other third party rubber straps (rubber B etc)
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@mclaincausey I’m with you on everything you say.
I almost bought the 58 a couple of years ago, but really pleased I held off as I prefer this.Thanks again buddy.
