Wonder Looper

[Gulliver]

I just ordered one of their Pima T’s yesterday when they were released. Did yours take long to deliver from WL?

[jerkules]

That L shirt looks made for you @EdH . I’m keen to give Wonder Looper a try, I love a heavyweight T-shirt. How breathable do you find them compared to the IH 11oz T-shirt fabric?

[EdH]

@Gulliver I ordered from JeansStore in the UK, not direct from WL, I'm afraid.

@jerkules There's not much in it, both feel like you're wearing the T-shirt equivalent of light-armour. On a breezy evening in April-ish, I remember thinking to myself that my forearms were feeling the wind, but my torso could barely feel a thing.

[jerkules]

That’s good to know, thanks man.

[Brandrea]

I own one of their 701 gsm (21oz) French Terry sweat shirts, and man this thing is HEAVY! Love the quality of their stuff!

Can’t wait for their zipped hoodie in the fall.

[flannel slut]

Just picked up one of their 701 gsm sweatshirts as well. On par with their heavyweight t’s which is pretty freaking nice.

[jordanscollected]

10/10 fit @flannel-slut I really like the chunky hem too.

[flannel slut]

Thanks!! @jordanscollected me too man. Based off the measurements, I sized down one from their t’s and lucked out.

[T4920]

I recently saw someone on IG being critical of WL, claiming that their 14oz t shirt fabric was identical to the 11oz fabric IH use for the 1501 and 1600s

Can anyone who has both concur?

[flannel slut]

@t4920 I believe their double heavyweight t shirt is listed at 12oz not 14. With that said, yes, they both have a similar feel/heft. I doubt WL is making false claims to the oz and discerning the difference between an ounce or two by hand is unlikely. In this case I would trust Bahzad over an IG post.

[jordanscollected]

@T4920 I am repeating a little info from a post regarding the 1501 and 1600 11 oz fabric. I don't own the Wonder Looper but i want one. I do own the 1501 and 1600 in the IH 11 oz fabric and what I have to compare it to is the Freenote 13 oz t-shirt.

I have garment numbers:
My Freenote cloth 13 oz. tee shirt weighs 295 grams
My Iron Heart 1600 11 oz. weighs 470 grams.
the Iron Heart has the chunky arm hems and neck hem, but those shouldn't affect the weight difference near as much as the results show.

the IH shirt is about twice as thick and is just as densely woven if not more.

@EdH discussed above that the fabric has a different feeling and stretch than his 1501 11 oz fabric.

I'll conclude by saying that fabric weight doesn't tell the whole story, not even close, and it seems very apparent when you are comparing jersey fabrics.

Once I get a WL t-shirt i'll do a IRL comparison.

[T4920]

@flannel-slut said in Wonder Looper:

In this case I would trust Bahzad over an IG post.

Completely valid. I just remember it being a long ass rant from a prominent user in the space that seemed well versed in quality clothing, IH in particular.. Found it interesting that he'd gone to such an effort to put out such a hit piece on WL and their business practices.

I've never handled anything by WL, so can't comment, but I appreciate the responses here from you and @jordanscollected

Also, that sweater is looking

[flannel slut]

@jordanscollected @EdH bring up a great point with the tightness of weave and the 1501 being a denser fabric.

[EdH]

@T4920 said in Wonder Looper:

claiming that their 14oz t shirt fabric was identical to the 11oz fabric IH use for the 1501 and 1600s

(My emphasis.)

Definitely not identical. The WL weave is looser and has a chunkier feel as a result (not that I've taken a set of callipers to them or anything, but just eyeballing it and in the hand it feels thicker). The IH weave is tighter IMO and doesn't 'give' as easily when you first put it on.

[Crispy Heron]

@EdH - I totally agree. I have both WL and IH and agree with what you say. Love both but they are quite different.

[atm23]

I picked up a 701gsm hoodie. Should be here next week. Excited to see this fabric in person.

[jordanscollected]

I thought this may interest some of people here that have considered WL or those who own some of their garments, especially @EdH

Hello Everyone,

I hope you’re doing well – hopefully gearing up for a nice weekend

Apologies for skipping last week's email; it's been a pretty busy as usual. But this week, we've got a bunch of news to share with you.

First off – our Double Heavyweight T’s in White, Black, Navy, and Khaki Green have just made their way into our warehouse. The Charcoal and Heather Grey versions are hot on their heels, expected to arrive next week. We'll be packing orders for our retail partners before we roll out the restock on our website. We’ll launch our restock on

Thursday, March 14th at 7PM ET, so circle your calendars. For those of you supporting us on launch day, you might find a little extra something in your shipment...

A few weeks ago, I talked about a new Indigo Dyed Double Heavyweight T that we were working on. We had a fabric developed that was specifically designed to take to dyes very well – and had some T’s produced. We sent 4 shirts to the dye house in Tokushima and had them individually dyed with 4 different levels of intensity. We just got the results back a few hours ago, and they are absolutely incredible! The T’s are garment dyed by hand. The dye house specializes in natural dyes – specifically Japan grown natural indigo. They do everything from growing and harvesting the indigo, produce and maintain the dyes, and dye everything by hand. A craft that has been designated a “intangible cultural heritage”. These are the same people who produce the very rare and sought after hank dyed indigo yarns used in some of the worlds most expensive jeans.

What we’re planning on offering these shirts as a pre-order. You’ll be able to pick your size and dye intensity and we’ll arrange the dying. We don’t have pricing or dates set yet but I was just so excited that I had to tell you all about it. Once all the details are planned out you’ll be sure to hear from us.

In other news.. We’re happy to announce a new retail partner has joined the Wonder Looper family – Burg & Schild located in Berlin. They are one of the most respected shops in the world and we're thrilled to be partnering with them. They will receive their first shipment this fall. Be sure to show them some love, they could have picked any brand in the world to bring in, and they put their faith in our little company.

And that’s it from us for this week. Have a great weekend!!

Kind Regards,

Bahzad & Risa

[EdH]

@jordanscollected Yeah, I got that email! Would definitely look to add another WL heavyweight T to my collection at some point. Very cool that they are going to offer 4 levels of indigo dying too. I expect that that would be more expensive than just doing a run and selling them, so I'd want to see what the actual prices are though.

[doubletee]

Oh man I’m all in on one of these beauties

[AdamJ]

These look cool, how do they compare to 1600 or 1610's? @EdH

Edit: the information I seek lies above