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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

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      SIMMONS BILT - TAIL GUNNER HORSEHIDE LEATHER JACKET - NATURAL

      Arrived today 🙂
      Is this a serious problem? Should I return it or keep it? The jacket is new and has not been worn.

      Thanks for the answers 🙂

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      • neph93N
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        I wouldn’t say so. Leather is a natural product and that kind of thing is entirely normal. It is those sort of irregularities that will make it unique when the patina comes in.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

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        • OaktaviaO
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          Seconded…looks like skin to me.

          IG: electricindigowizard

          "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

          WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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          • NikN
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            Is what a serious problem? I can't tell what you are referring to. Agreed that it looks like a great leather jacket.

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              @Nkwkfld:

              Is what a serious problem? I can't tell what you are referring to. Agreed that it looks like a great leather jacket.

              Sorry, my mistake. Back panel have some wrinkles as you can see on the photos.
              Now, my OCD can live with that but I am afraid that leather can crack in the future. Newer had experience with wrinkles on new leather jacket.

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              • neph93N
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                @dex:

                Now, my OCD can live with that but I am afraid that leather can crack in the future..

                I doubt it, unless it is neglected beyond what even the laziest jacket owner (me), is capable of.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • NikN
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                  Looks fine to me @dex but if you don't like it return it while you still can. My Simmons bilt in Japanese tea core horse hide has all sorts of different grain to it and I love it. You might come to appreciate those kinds of natural variations from the fact that the leather is from an animal, and not a completely industrial process. Simmons Bilt make their stuff one person at a time, and I trust their work to choose suitable hides, but maybe you want to go for some other kind of product?

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                  • cityofdelusionC
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                    Just received my Smokey D Racer jacket. Just fantastic.

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                    • AdamJA
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                      @cityofdelusion spot on, nice one

                      The devil is in the detail..

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                      • cityofdelusionC
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                        @AdamJ Thank you!

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                        • MizmazzleM
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                          Does anyone know the difference between the Roadster and the Tailgunner? I see the Tailgunner has the shoulder swing gussets. Is there anything else that separates these two?

                          In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                          • EdHE
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                            @Mizmazzle Looks like the Tail Gunner also has zippy cuffs. Not being a biker myself, it looks to my layman's eye like the Tail Gunner has more utility for biking - shoulder swing gussets for comfort when leaning forward, and zips to tighten the cuffs and keep the wind out of your sleeves.

                            You can always email Debs at SB. She is super-duper helpful.

                            Take the dive...

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                            • MizmazzleM
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                              @EdH thanks Ed! I did just that! Haven’t heard back yet but I’ve been in regular contact with her for the last 6 weeks or so. Think I’m just about ready to pull the trigger on this jacket. Just sorting through any last minute thoughts and possibilities. Both look quite lovely but thinking the Tail gunner is the one for me! Was considering going through Standard and Strange and getting the Vanishing Point. But not sure really what the difference is on those two either. Look about the same other than the zipper pockets. A lot cheaper to go straight through SB on the Tail Gunner too.

                              In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                • doubleteeD
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                                  @cityofdelusion What leather is used on these two beauties?

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                                    @doubletee

                                    Left: Black Waxy horsehide
                                    Right: Clayton chrome tanned horsehide

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                                    • jiminstitchesJ
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                                      My Tailgunner arrived today after emailing Debs for the last 3 months and how awesome is Debs! I was after a fitted jacket that I would wear just a t-shirt underneath. Wearing it, it feels perfect but just wondered what you guys think? Please be honest I won't be offended😀
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                                      • MizmazzleM
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                                        @jiminstitches dope!!! Is that the Blattwerk leather? For looks great. Those sleeves should come up some with creasing. I think you’ve got a hell of jacket with a hell of a fit.

                                        In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                        • JunkPantsJ
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                                          @jiminstitches Very nice!

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                                          • doubleteeD
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                                            @jiminstitches agreed with the above. Amazing jacket and what a fit. Be interested to see if it’s the Blattwerk leather? You pleased?

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