IRON HEART WAYWT - 2023 EDITION
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@EdH said in IRON HEART WAYWT - 2023 EDITION:
@Brandrea Thanks!
And congrats to your daughter on being accepted to do neuroscience. I find that stuff fascinating (from a layman's level). I was listening to a podcast the other day about how we perceive reality and apparently there are 10 times as many neurones feeding back to the visual cortex from the frontal lobes. This neuroscientist was explaining how they now think that the brain perceives our surroundings based on Bayesian inference done by the frontal lobes, rather than by directly perceiving reality.
The example he gave was if you were walking down the street on a foggy day and a lion started to come out of the gloom, you would initially perceive a dog instead. Your visual cortex would receive the sense-data of 'lion' but - assuming you had never seen a lion wandering down the sidewalk in a residential area before - the frontal lobes would most likely respond "no, there are no lions in our neighbourhood, it must be a dog" and until the point at which the lion became clear enough to override your Bayesian priors vis-a-vis the statistical unlikelihood of a lion being on your street, your conscious mind would literally perceive a dog.
Anyway, I found it interesting to think about...
Up until you gave the example, you lost me and it would’ve been a conversation better had with my daughter lol
Thank you, we are tremendously proud parents !
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@Twistlock said in IRON HEART WAYWT - 2023 EDITION:
And congrats to the acceptance of your daughter @Brandrea. I can relate to the feelings of letting go, my daughter moved to Sweden two years ago for University. On the flipside it is so cool to see her doing her thing and maturing. Makes you proud as parents.
Couldn’t have said it any better.
I trust your daughter is doing well and thriving at University
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Congrats man. My girls are 9 and 11 and the car is packed, ready to go. College, army, married at the 18 to loser boyfriends/girlfriends… it matters not. As long as they live elsewhere.
@EdH this happened to me during an earthquake in Maryland. It took me a few minutes to realize what was going on. I was real confused.
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@goosehd not until now! I guess you’ll be found out if you try to cut corners.
I don’t really have much to do with AI in my working life (or outside it) but I have been following some of the debates in recent years about whether an AI can be named as an inventor (and then transfer their rights in an invention to their “employer”) - see https://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2022/07/artificial-intelligence-is-not-breaking.html?m=1, for example.
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@goosehd Thanks for this!
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I asked it to summarise a recent judgment we had had to see if it could help me draft a press release. It got the parties right, and the name of the judge, but everything after that was completely made up, from the nature of the dispute, to the eventual winner.
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I’m not saying that I can’t see the benefits of having AI, but I also can’t understand creating a technology that will eventually replace so many jobs to some degree.
When I first starting using computers in the early 80’s the saying was “garbage in, garbage out” and even today it sounds like AI still has a way to go. The thing that scares me is losing the ability to question the information coming out and just regarding AI as the ultimate truth.
Critical thinking is a skill that we should be constantly working on, not depending on someone else or thing to just tell us the answer. I once was witness to a Medical Internist and Radiologist having a discussion about a patient (Veterinary Medicine) and the Internist wanted to know if the patient had cancer. The Radiologist gave the Internist a list of differentials which included a few things including a possible cancer diagnosis, but would not ultimately call it cancer.
The Radiologist kept explaining that the only ultimate truth to what the area of concern was, is to take a biopsy and submit the specimen to a pathologist for interpretation. You can make educated guesses based upon history, blood samples, location of areas of concern, etc., but you can’t tell upon imaging alone what a diagnosis will be.
The Critical Thinking aspect is being able to process all of the information together (Imaging, Lab Work, History, Patient Condition) to ultimately come up with a diagnosis and treatment plan, all of which the Internist didn’t want/or couldn’t do.
Having a machine/technology that just spits out answers without the user being able to question it/nor wanting to question it, scares the hell out of me!
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@natehate said in IRON HEART WAYWT - 2023 EDITION:
@Brandrea hey if you want a list of restaurants and such in that area that are cool i can throw something together for you/her
Thank you for the kind offer. We actually live close by in a small village, so we are quite familiar with the area.
Bonus is that she can come home every so often, if she wants to spend time with the old folks lol
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@goosehd said in IRON HEART WAYWT - 2023 EDITION:
@Brandrea You're not changing the locks...
Ha ha … not yet
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I just wanted to quickly post but found myself reading through the full AI conversation. Priceless!
I recommend anyone interested in AI (and philosophy) to read Norbert Wiener‘s „Cybernetics: or, Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine“ (1948). The guy was just ahead of his time, much like George Orwell with 1984.
It’s incredible what he was already imagining back then and kind of makes you smile about how everyone’s freaking out about AI now that it’s „accessible“.Oh, and here’s my post
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Freaking brilliant @Oaktavia
