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IH-8301S - SBG "Super Black Fade-To-Gray" Denim - Slim Cut

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    Oaktavia
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    Joined: 12 Jun 2019

    Awesome combo of black denim @bubbapest where do you find your patches? I really dig those…

    IG: electricindigowizard

    "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

    WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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      bubbapest
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      Joined: 25 Dec 2012

      Oh man, it was this place called death, hell and the grave.  Shoulder patches and the back patch.  The fingers was this brand a tattoo artist i knew, i doubt its open still.  And the other one was from sketchy tank i think

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        Oaktavia
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        Wow that's a hell of a name!

        IG: electricindigowizard

        "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

        WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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          bubbapest
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          Joined: 25 Dec 2012

          @Oaktavia:

          Wow that's a hell of a name!

          https://shrimp-sauce.com/collections/patches now youve got me looking !!!

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            Oaktavia
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            @bubbapest:

            @Oaktavia:

            Wow that's a hell of a name!

            https://shrimp-sauce.com/collections/patches now youve got me looking !!!

            Awesome thanks for the link. I was looking last night but didn't find much…

            IG: electricindigowizard

            "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

            WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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              bubbapest
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              Joined: 25 Dec 2012

              Anytime

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                bubbapest
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                Joined: 25 Dec 2012

                Anyone know if the 8301 is closer to the 777 or the 555?  Was thinking 777 but just wanted to double check with experience

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                  neph93
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                  @bubbapest:

                  Anyone know if the 8301 is closer to the 777 or the 555?  Was thinking 777 but just wanted to double check with experience

                  Closer to 777.

                  The 555 tapers strongly in the thigh then drops fairly straight knee to hem. The 301 and 777 have (slightly different) amounts of taper through the whole leg.

                  The other major similarity between 777 and 301 is the lower rise. If memory serves, the 301 has a slightly roomier top block than the 777 though.

                  «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                  • Dame Vera Lynn
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                    bubbapest
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                    Joined: 25 Dec 2012

                    Awesome, thanks.  Ill have to try the 777 for my next indigo pair

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                      Bojackh193
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                      Joined: 5 Mar 2023

                      Dumb question, but is this the exact same fabric as the non-Self Edge collaboration cuts? The 888, 555, 634, etc don’t mention the waist and inseam shrinkage like the description for this pair does on Self Edge’s website.

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                        sabergirl
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                        Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                        Back when the 555-03 was first a thing, the sbg denim it was made of had a description like that and sort of shrank-to-fit. I have a vague recollection that at some point the denim and/or it’s treatment changed so that was no longer the case. I expect that self edge is using their original description, but the denim and it’s processing may have undergone the same change. Another possibility is that these 8301 are still from the earlier batches of this denim.

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                          Bojackh193
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                          Joined: 5 Mar 2023

                          I asked Kiya about the product descriptions and got a pretty quick response:

                          “The 633s-SBG is very very lightly rinsed, we still consider it "raw".
                          Where as the 8301 isn't rinsed at all, so there is more shrinkage there, especially for a sanforized denim.
                          I wouldn't expect the 633s-SBG to shrink that much, and they run a bit small so most of our clients have been sizing up.“

                          Sounds like the 8301 is pretty much an unwashed sanforized fabric.

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                            Denimminer
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                            Joined: 22 Oct 2019

                            This sounds like the first run the Berkeley Supply Snake Oil Provisions had. I got a lot of shrink out of that pair I had and wasn't expecting as much so now I'm on the hunt for a new pair of SBG.

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                              BrianR
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                              Joined: 11 Jan 2023

                              @plumdog I'm a year behind you - I just received my 8301 SBGs and was going to wear them for a while unhemmed as well until after the first soak; however, the length is way too big for me.

                              How much shrinkage did you see across the waist, thigh, knee, hem, and length? I'll probably get these hemmed as well, so guessing I should add 1.5 - 2" to the length above my preference? The hem is also a bit wider than I usually like, but I can't tell if Self Edge/IH accounted for shrinkage in the width of the legs as well. Thanks!

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                                goosehd
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                                @BrianR Plumdog hasn't been on the forum since 2022. I am going to move your question as soon as I can figure out where it would be more appropriate.

                                Edit: Moved to IH-8301S

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  BrianR
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                                  Joined: 11 Jan 2023

                                  @goosehd Thank you amigo!

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                                    BrianR
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                                    @goosehd
                                    Joined: 11 Jan 2023

                                    @goosehd and for anyone interested in same question. Kiya at Self Edge sent me this about shrinkage across thigh, knee, hem:

                                    They'll shrink about .25" to .4" in the areas not stated on our site after a warm wash.

                                    last edited by 18 Apr 2024, 14:49 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • pacreamerP
                                      pacreamer
                                      Haraki san Student
                                      Joined: 4 Mar 2017

                                      Hey guys. I’m considering getting a pair of these jeans. Just concerned about the sizing, I’m considering either a 34 or 36 as I’m smack in between two sizes- I know SE measures a bit differently than IH. And from what I’ve seen in this thread, a size 34 comes measured out closer to ~35 in the waist prior to shrinkage, which is what I want.

                                      However is it possible to go with a size 36 to be on the safer end and then just really hit it hard with the hot wash to get them down to size 34 ish ballpark measurements? I’d then be worried about them stretching back out….

                                      Any experience or advice would be very helpful

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                                      • TheChef17T
                                        TheChef17
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                                        Joined: 13 Nov 2024

                                        Hey! Just my 2 cents, I think hot washing a 36 to get a 35 waist might be a little aggressive. You might be able to get some shrinkage out of it, but more than likely you'll stretch them back out for it will be a constant cycle of hot washing until they wont shrink down hard enough for ya anymore.

                                        Just for reference too, I have a pair of the 8301s with some light-ish wear and tear in a 36. and they seem to be sitting right at a 36 when I just measured just now. Best bet would prolly be to go for a larger 34 and try and get some stretch into it. Not a professional in this department, but just hoping it helps!

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                                        • pacreamerP
                                          pacreamer
                                          Haraki san Student
                                          Joined: 4 Mar 2017

                                          That’s pretty much exactly what I needed to see haha.

                                          Thanks so much!

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