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Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural

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    Boyo
    The Unwoven
    Joined: 18 Oct 2017

    There is a chance you can ruin the jacket, but there is also the chance you get the exact fit you want from a soak.. My thoughts would be to only wet/soak the areas you want to change.. ie the shoulders or the collar.. then wear it dry and condition after dry if necessary.. i would not soak the entire shirt.. at least to start, and i would not put it in the washing machine. id wear it in the shower.

    Lively Up Yourself

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      louisbosco
      啓蒙家
      Joined: 21 Feb 2013

      I mean I've rode in thunderstorms where I've come off dripping wet. does that count? 🤣

      "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

      • Harvey Specter
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        Bigdog
        Haraki san Prodigy
        Joined: 6 Jan 2023

        What about going outside to do a Hike, calisthenics, general movement while it’s raining, then continue same while it’s drying.

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          Autorotate
          Joined: 6 Feb 2021

          Thanks for the initial responses.

          @Nik ive been appreciating your bleached jeans. So good! Interested to see how the dye job come out.

          This will ultimately be a moto-riding jacket, and I’d wear it never fearing for foul weather. So yes, accelerating the process.

          The issue I see with “spot -wetting” is the uneven shades that could result.

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            Autorotate
            Joined: 6 Feb 2021

            @Bigdog i like to do things on my schedule, not mother nature’s. Hahaha. But yes, a perfect idea.

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              Boyo
              The Unwoven
              @Autorotate
              Joined: 18 Oct 2017

              @Autorotate said in Iron Heart X Simmons Bilt Horsehide Western Shirt - The Pale Rider - Natural:

              Thanks for the initial responses.

              The issue I see with “spot -wetting” is the uneven shades that could result.

              you're right about the water stains, you could do a light rub down of the entire shirt with a wet towel to set the water stain for the full shirt then fully soak the areas the need to be further broken in..

              Lively Up Yourself

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                Matt
                見習いボス
                Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                Horses seem to do ok in the rain so I’d imagine the shirt will be ok as well.

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                  weegeebee1
                  Haraki san Student
                  Joined: 6 Jul 2022

                  @Autorotate I wouldn't apply pecards and then get wet. Pecards is pretty much vaseline with some extra oils. So that will repel water. Not totally waterproof, but definitely make it harder to fully absorb. Which brings me to my next point. If you get it wet, make sure it is fully wet and soaked all over. Don't try spot treatment and that kind of thing. Whatever evolution is going to happen, you want it all over to make it look more natural and even.

                  You probably read some of my posts on TFL. I go by "Toomanyhatsonlyonehead" over there. I've washed many, many leather jackets, put in dryer full blast, etc. I haven't had a "ruin" yet, but I definitely can see ways it could go wrong. The biggest issue with doing with jackets is the zipper. It will cause waves since the zipper doesn't shrink with the leather.

                  Also, I wouldn't try the wet and dry method with the pale rider unless it's at least a size too big. I don't think this shirt will wear comfortable skin tight. The shirt pocket, placket, etc. adds a lot of thickness, and some of the edges almost feel sharp if that makes sense. I'd be curious to know more about the kind of tanning they did to the leather. It doesn't feel like veg tan to me. It has more CXL type qualities, so maybe it's a combo, or maybe it's veg tan, but there's some sort of top coat, pigment finish, etc. Anyway, I'm really curious to see the journey over the next couple years with lots of wears. I think those wearing on motorcycles are going to speed up that process with the exposure to elements, all that motion, etc. vs someone just wearing around the house like me.

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                    louisbosco
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 21 Feb 2013

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                    @Autorotate

                    "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                    • Harvey Specter
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                      Nik
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 12 Nov 2020

                      That is looking so great @louisbosco

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                        louisbosco
                        啓蒙家
                        Joined: 21 Feb 2013

                        @Nik cheers mate.

                        "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                        • Harvey Specter
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                          Autorotate
                          Joined: 6 Feb 2021

                          @louisbosco looks killer man.

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                            louisbosco
                            啓蒙家
                            @Autorotate
                            Joined: 21 Feb 2013

                            @Autorotate cheers mate, sharing so that you can see how different lifestyles evolve this shirt.

                            Mine has just been through a second mustang paste coating

                            "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                            • Harvey Specter
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                              A Former User
                              @louisbosco
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                              @louisbosco looking niceeee

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                                Autorotate
                                Joined: 6 Feb 2021

                                The Pale Rider has landed. Fit is perfect for me. I’m shorter, so the front length is about an inch longer than I prefer, but it’s a minor complaint. Also I am popping buttons with extreme arm movement. I’m going to explore mods to make the snaps just a tad more tight.
                                In the pic with my unhappy-at-this-moment son, you really can see the stout, cardboard-like hand of the leather. My initial thoughts are: if one can break this beast, you’ll have a friend for life. Like 3 lifetimes.
                                I liberally hand slathered it with Pecard’s Antique formula and put it outside in the sun. It’s sunny and cold here… I believe the leather shade/color benefits from the UV and not the air temp…
                                TBD if I decide to soak it. I like the idea of “form fitting” it, but I also recognize the process will probably do nothing to soften it. It’s just gonna take days/months/years of hard wear. That said, I’ve noticed on @louisbosco jacket that the seams have puckered slightly and the collar has formed beautifully. I really like those details!
                                I’m taking off to Spain tomorrow, and the shirt will stay home, passively absorbing the Pecard’s in the closet.
                                Thanks to all you Pale Rider Riders for the insight, advice and first hand experience. This will be a cool ride.

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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  Have a few in the works....

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                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    kkibbey23
                                    Haraki san Prodigy
                                    Joined: 16 Oct 2013

                                    Oh yeah😎 hopefully I’ll grab one

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                                      louisbosco
                                      啓蒙家
                                      Joined: 21 Feb 2013

                                      @Autorotate looks good mate. Still very fresh yours is.

                                      Once you get those few wears in and the creases sets in, it should feel a lot better. Including the length and sleeve. I tend to think of mine more as a jacket than shirt so I’m quite okay with the length

                                      "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                                      • Harvey Specter
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                                        Autorotate
                                        Joined: 6 Feb 2021

                                        @Giles i spy an Extractor! 😎

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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          Good spot

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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