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    Bread - What are you baking today…..

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    • dinobarnesberlinD
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      I knew baking bread was not easy, but I didn't think it was rocket science.
      Turns out it IS rocket science ???

      @neversummer

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      • GilesG
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        @neversummer That is very kind of you thank you.  Now to hunt down some dark rye….

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • neph93N
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          Fancy giving that a go myself.

          I have come to the conclusion that my starter is at a point where its potency means proofing time needs to be shortened.

          The recipes used call for a bulk ferment og between three and four hours (finger test preferably) and approxiamtely 12-14 hours in the fridge. The bulk ferment time seems right. The mass doesn’t double in that time, but it is meaningful. Bubbles form, there is swelling, the finger test is passed.

          However, the acitivity after refridgerating is meaningful. The dough continues to rise at a pace I would not have thought possible at 3C. By the time morning comes they are over-proofed.

          So the options are, shorter bulk ferment, shorter fridge proofing, or both… any suggestions?

          The results today were still acceptable:



          «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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          • LewisStonehouseL
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            Your fridge might not be as cold as some, so I think shorter cold proof is worth a crack.

            Like the look of that bloomer neph!

            Edit: Not necessarily any need to quote pics, especially if it the next post….Giles

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            • SeulS
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              Mothertruckers using Dupont cidre to make bread… Dear gods I love this thread...

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                @dinobarnesberlin I've probably overcomplicated it!  It's really quite easy- the only tools you need beyond what you likely already have are a scale and digital thermometer.  And flour, if you can find some!
                @Giles You got it.  Could pretty easily be made using the Biga method, and would be quite good.  I think whole wheat or spelt would be great in place of rye, the important ingredient according to him is the cider.
                @Seul I know!  😃  Like using Cristal to cook with!  Though way less expensive…

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                • dinobarnesberlinD
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                  I just like coming here to see all the great bread that you guys are baking:)
                  it all looks good to me!

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                  • jordanscollectedJ
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                    Had a go at sourdough bagels (again my oven sucks).

                    They came out well and made a hell of a breakfast sandwich

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                    888 Fat guy chocolate WT
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                    Wabidashery

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                    • GilesG
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                      @neversummer:

                      @Giles You got it.  Could pretty easily be made using the Biga method, and would be quite good.  I think whole wheat or spelt would be great in place of rye, the important ingredient according to him is the cider.

                      Dark Rye found and ordered….... 🙂 🙂

                      Once it comes I'll try and Biga-ify your recipe...

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • GilesG
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                        It's proofing time…..

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          Marcia’s masterpiece from today:
                          Sourdough with half whole wheat flour.

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                          • jordanscollectedJ
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                            @sabergirl Marcia's loaf looks great. I'd love to see more pics of what people are doing with their bread! ME ME ME I'll go first!

                            I was initially using AP flour because it's all i lazily grabbed at the store, but i had forgotten we have a special High Gluten flour from a pizza crust project at work. that's been a game changer for me and my bread. It's incredibly chewy and springy. It also grills up perfect after brushing with a little ghee as seen in our grilled vegetable sandwich.

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                            Mad Red x2
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                            • ChapC
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                              That’s a lovely bread @jordanscollected and wonderful idea with the grilled veggies

                              God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                                Looks like a nice sandwich! We have mostly been doing a lot of this:
                                At all hours of the day and night. [emoji23]

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                                • neph93N
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                                  Just got this weeks bake going. I’ve revised my schedule so that the starter refresh is at 0630 and the autolyse starts 1700. So my starter will be 11 hours old when it goes in, folding and bulk ferment will continue until about 2200 and the bake will be around 0800 tomorrow. Hopefully I will avoid the overproofing issues I’ve been having.

                                  Documention will have my wheat/whole wheat on a rye starter first and spelt/wheat on a spelt starter second.

                                  Starters:

                                  Autolyse:

                                  «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                  • ChapC
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                                    That smell in the house when baking bread in the morning ❤️

                                    God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                                    • neph93N
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                                      I hear it is wonderful! I have to take other peoples word for it however [emoji1]

                                      «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                      We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        Always interesting to see what happens when you change things up. As well as a shorter proofing time, I used a different spelt flour, and both doughs had a higher hydration than normal…

                                        Spelt prepared for the oven...

                                        And done…



                                        And the crumb…

                                        Much better oven spring and not over-proofed.

                                        The crumb was quite different however. Very irregular, with quite dense areas, contrasted with large holes. Whether this was the increased hydration (I was a tad over 80%), the shorter proof, or the new flour, I couldn’t tell you.

                                        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                        • ChapC
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                                          They look amazing @neph93

                                          Mine are Forkish Pain de Campagne… out off the oven this moment

                                          God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                                          • den1mheadD
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                                            ^ Your bread looks bloody gorgeous @Chap & @neph93 , as does the bread posted by the other"Breadmeisters"

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