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    Bread - What are you baking today…..

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    • neph93N
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      The concern I have comes for an article which discussed the difficulties of mixing the salt and starter in, post-autolyse. It all seemed a bit complicated by that point so I haven’t bothered yet. I’ll give it a try today.

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      • GilesG
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        Hmmm, not encountered that, but I have been concentrating on pre-ferments lately whilst I wait for my new mongrel starter (it gets fed a variety of different flours - white, wholewheat, rye, spelt, chapatti, depending what is at the front of the cupboard when I open it up) to get to a stage that I am comfortable baking with it.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • neph93N
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          I’m pretty sure I’m overthunking it (as usual), so I’m just going to do it today and see for myself.

          Thanks for the feedback gents.

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          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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          • dinobarnesberlinD
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            You guys are killing it with the Bread @Chap that one there…real nice!

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            • ROmanR
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              I'm not always sure of bread making terminology, but I do the autolyse, usually about 20-30 minutes. I was talking with P & G today, and Paula asked about the potato bread I made. After autolyze, I added the cooled mashed potato, and the water I used was cooled water from boiling the potato. So far its my favorite bread.

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              • GilesG
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                Today I am making an 80% Biga, the preferment happened overnight.  For the final mix, I substituted 200gms white for 200gms light rye….

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • neph93N
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                  @ROman:

                  I'm not always sure of bread making terminology, but I do the autolyse, usually about 20-30 minutes. I was talking with P & G today, and Paula asked about the potato bread I made. After autolyze, I added the cooled mashed potato, and the water I used was cooled water from boiling the potato. So far its my favorite bread.

                  I have a colleague who makes potato bread and brings it to work. I think he uses potato flour as well as master boiled potato. Wonderful stuff. Very satisfying.

                  «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                  • neph93N
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                    This morning I repeated the same bake as I did about five days ago. One spelt sourdough with spelt starter, split into two loaves and one wheat sourdough with rye starter, split into two. Same recipe and largely the same process, with two differences. Firstly I was careful not to overproof (about 30min shorter bulk ferment). Secondly both sets of sourdough had a 30min autolyse with only the flour and water mixed.

                    I haven’t cut into the wheat loaves yet as they are cooling, but the spelt loaf definitely has a more open, irregular structure than the last time without autolyse, and is fluffier and softer.

                    Today:

                    Last week:

                    I’m going to say the autolyse was the decisive factor.

                    The Banneton’s were a pleasure to use this time and I’m very happy with the results…


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                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                    • GilesG
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                      Very nice…...

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • GilesG
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                        The core temperature of my dough was super low…...

                        Solution, dunk it in the sink surrounded by a shitload of hot water.....5C rise after 15 mins.....

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • dinobarnesberlinD
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                          Dude 🙂

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                          • ChapC
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                            Did some Sunday breakfast buns

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                            • ChapC
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                              Amazing breads @neph93 they look brillant … I am doing a whole-grain once or twice a week, same recipe with some slight variations... it’s getting better each time

                              God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                              • GilesG
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                                I'm beginning to realise which of my two ovens I prefer…...

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • GilesG
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                                  Anyone converted a recipe that calls for dried yeast into one that uses a starter. If so, any tips or pointers?

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    I was thinking about this in relation to a poolish. I figured I could ise a teaspoon or two of spelt starter to make it the night before.

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                                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      This looks like a reasonable place to start….

                                      http://www.wildyeastblog.com/going-wild/

                                      I'm going to try a Poolish or a Biga and use the sums outlined there...

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • Stuart.TS
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                                        I just cannot buy flour where we are. I've got enough to get a starter going, but not enough to start baking. Even a friend who works in our local wholefood store can't order it from their usual distributor. Very frustrating.

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          @Stuart.T:

                                          I just cannot buy flour where we are. I've got enough to get a starter going, but not enough to start baking. Even a friend who works in our local wholefood store can't order it from their usual distributor. Very frustrating.

                                          That sucks. Get your starter going though. It will take a few days before it comes to life, and if it does so before you get anything to feed it with, you can just whack it in the fridge. That way you’ll be good to go when you do score a kilo.

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                                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Some debunking….

                                            https://www.simonandschuster.com/c/sourdough-or-levain

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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