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    • dinobarnesberlinD
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      Dude 🙂

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      • ChapC
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        Did some Sunday breakfast buns

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        • ChapC
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          Amazing breads @neph93 they look brillant … I am doing a whole-grain once or twice a week, same recipe with some slight variations... it’s getting better each time

          God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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          • GilesG
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            I'm beginning to realise which of my two ovens I prefer…...

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • GilesG
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              Anyone converted a recipe that calls for dried yeast into one that uses a starter. If so, any tips or pointers?

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • neph93N
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                I was thinking about this in relation to a poolish. I figured I could ise a teaspoon or two of spelt starter to make it the night before.

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                • GilesG
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                  This looks like a reasonable place to start….

                  http://www.wildyeastblog.com/going-wild/

                  I'm going to try a Poolish or a Biga and use the sums outlined there...

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • Stuart.TS
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                    I just cannot buy flour where we are. I've got enough to get a starter going, but not enough to start baking. Even a friend who works in our local wholefood store can't order it from their usual distributor. Very frustrating.

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                    • neph93N
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                      @Stuart.T:

                      I just cannot buy flour where we are. I've got enough to get a starter going, but not enough to start baking. Even a friend who works in our local wholefood store can't order it from their usual distributor. Very frustrating.

                      That sucks. Get your starter going though. It will take a few days before it comes to life, and if it does so before you get anything to feed it with, you can just whack it in the fridge. That way you’ll be good to go when you do score a kilo.

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                      • GilesG
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                        Some debunking….

                        https://www.simonandschuster.com/c/sourdough-or-levain

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • neph93N
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                          @Giles:

                          Some debunking….

                          https://www.simonandschuster.com/c/sourdough-or-levain

                          Good that.

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                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                          • GilesG
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                            So, I'm converting a dried yeast Biga recipe into a sourdough starter version.  Not sure why, because the Biga is a pre-ferment anyway  🙂

                            Substituted 0.64 gms of dried yeast with 11 gms of starter in the Biga itself.  With the dried yeast version, I would have tripled the volume of the Biga after 12 hours.  I'm currently on about double volume  with the starter version, after 12 hours.  Will leave it for another 12…..

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • GilesG
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                              06:00 and the Biga had trebled in size, so about 22 hours from mixing.  Now I've done the final mix.

                              With the dried yeat recipe, the bulk fermentation stage takes about 3 hours, so I'm reckoning on about 5 for the starter version.

                              Boy, does it smell sour…...

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • GilesG
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                                EXTREMELY slack dough, this is going to be a mother to shape….. 🙂 🙂

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • GilesG
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                                  Just popped them into the oven.  Think I will be taking out 2 pancakes  😃 😃

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    I'm following this with interest as it partially overlaps with something I'm considering/pondering at the moment. When I have the time I will explain…

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      Just took a peek.  Got a small amount of oven-spring…...

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          Looks pretty good to me. But I guess this is about taste?

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            So my last three bakes have been the same. Two sourdoughs, one based on my spelt starter with spelt and wheat flour, the other with my rye starter and wholemeal wheat. While the essential processes are the same, they are both derived from different recipes, with different hydration, flour percentages etc. One major difference is the amount of time for the bulk ferment and the amount of starter as a percentage of total weight. In short the spelt recipe uses more starter and has a shorter bulk ferment time. However, I’m making them in tandem so the bulk ferment ends up about the same.

                                            The result is that the either the spelt over proofs and doesn’t get much oven spring and the wheat is perfect, or the spelt is perfect and the wheat slightly underproofed.

                                            Another thing is the difference in the starters. I’ve calmed my rye starter down, but my spelt starter seems feisty. It produces hooch relatively early in its cycle, I assume because it is burning through the fuel I’m giving it quicker. As of today I’m using less of the active starter and more flour every time I refresh it, to try and calm it a bit.

                                            So it seems to me that I should start playing with the amount of starter I use in the recipes, or the amount of flour if I want to bring these two recipes to a point where I can make them in tandem, using the same timing and get the best results from both breads. This is fun.

                                            But I guess that is also the challenge with your sourdough Biga @Giles. Getting the balance between the amount of starter, the amount of flour, and the fermenting time right?

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                                            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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