Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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cool shirt @Steve. good cause too.
For those curious, I received the Bravestar mask today, this is the $20 selvedge without the filter pocket.
it pulls on the ears a tad, but the elastic is not too tight that it's uncomfortable.
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My wife is an ARNP at one of the largest hospitals in Seattle (the original epicenter of the outbreak). The hospital she works at converted every ward to a COVID ICU in preparation for the peak. That peak came and went with beds being no more than 60% full. This is credit to the city's efforts to social distance and somewhat being ahead of the curve in terms of the government placing in effect a stay at home order. Of course you won't read about this in the news because it doesn't get clicks. If it bleeds it leads and that's why people in the states are reading about NY, Louisiana, etc.
However, that doesn't mean it is safe to just open everything back up. The U.S. in general is pathetically behind on testing availability and until testing becomes readily available, hopefully before a vaccine is finally created, the city and surrounding areas will have to stay mostly shut down.
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Ordered this from Railcar Fine Goods. Any other denim companies making masks besides RC and Bravestar?
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Samurai and OkayDenimCo are two I can think of off the top of my head.
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That peak came and went with beds being no more than 60% full. This is credit to the city's efforts to social distance and somewhat being ahead of the curve in terms of the government placing in effect a stay at home order.
Coronavirus 0 - Seattle Freeze 1
Seriously, much credit should be given to the large tech companies, in Seattle and elsewhere, as well as many of the top universities, for quickly going into confinement. They quickly implemented study/work-at-home schemes and banned any business related travel, 1 or 2 weeks ahead of any action from local governments.
As a side note, good article if you have access to the NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/coronavirus-sequencing.html
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My wife is an ARNP at one of the largest hospitals in Seattle (the original epicenter of the outbreak). The hospital she works at converted every ward to a COVID ICU in preparation for the peak. That peak came and went with beds being no more than 60% full. This is credit to the city's efforts to social distance and somewhat being ahead of the curve in terms of the government placing in effect a stay at home order. Of course you won't read about this in the news because it doesn't get clicks. If it bleeds it leads and that's why people in the states are reading about NY, Louisiana, etc.
However, that doesn't mean it is safe to just open everything back up. The U.S. in general is pathetically behind on testing availability and until testing becomes readily available, hopefully before a vaccine is finally created, the city and surrounding areas will have to stay mostly shut down.
I agree on the pathetic response to testing. I’m assuming you’re familiar with two recent studies done by USC and Stanford where they ran tests on a small sample size of the population and determined that a large percentage of people who were asymptotic or had mild symptoms had covid 19. It still has to go through peer review but if they’re right then that means the fatality rate is much lower than we thought.
I don’t think it would be sustainable to close the economy for much longer. If it’s a gradual opening with social distancing/masks enforced then that might work. But it can’t just be business as usual. 22 million out of work in the US and rising, food banks reaching critical levels, etc. the protests are heating up and it’s just a matter of time before people snap and then all hell breaks loose.
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The UK Government finally announced what the profession have known for sometime, that social distancing measures will be in place for 12 months or more. The UK and the US are in an ideological war that some of our neighbours in Europe and Asia have not entertained, and have therefore done so much better jobs at making progress.
One of our local acute hospitals has approx 300 covid 19 patients, and approx 1500 general admissions. The A&E dept has started to see more people arriving as the result of stupid, alcohol induced, accidents at home. Way to go us Brits. So proud.
I overheard 2 acute hospital nurses talking at school drop off yesterday, one ssid 'the trust has to start telling the truth, it's not as bad as they're reporting, we've always been fine for PPE'.
The reported 'having to reuse' PPE was also a statement issued by South Essex hospital trusts, and was taken out of context by national press. The comments were an observation made when a senior manager was asked what they would do if they ran out of PPE. They responded 'we'd have to wash and reuse it', not that 'we are washing and reusing it'.
The long term health and economic affects of an extended lock down will far exceed the number of short term, but high number of deaths.
Care homes aren't reporting deaths correctly when they are reporting to The Care Quality Commission either, they are often notifying that residents have died of covid 19 before it has been confirmed.
I don't think that this misinformation is going to stop, or the measures eased or stopped until the press, business, and the public apply pressure on Government. This will devestate a whole generation, the socioeconomic impact is immense and will be felt long after we forget about covid 19.
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I understand how Hospitals have over prepared for this, and appreciate their response.
I glanced at the USC / Stanford study based on 300 / 3500 approx. respondents The final statement is. "Maybe the good news is that the fatality rate is lower than what we thought it would be," Sood said.
He added, however, that this shouldn't be the only number that the county focuses on. The study's finding that 4% of the county's population has been infected suggests that "we are very early in the epidemic and many more people in Los Angeles County could potentially be infected."
"And as the number of infections arise, so will the number of deaths, the number of hospitalizations and the number of ICU admissions," Sood said.South Korea and The US had they're first Corvid- 19 patient the same day. South Korea to this day has 238 deaths, compared to 47,750 in the US, in 2 months.
Today UPS arrived with some packages along with the IHJ-82-IND. The driver was sweaty, no face mask or gloves, demanded I sign his pad, had all packages against his sweaty chest, and then passed them to me. I was cooking dinner, went to my room, removed my clothes took a shower, dinner was a failure. All packages are strewn on the front porch till I deal with it tomorrow.
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@ROman that's unacceptable. Our postal staff aren't wearing masks, but they don't require signatures now, and every courier I've had uses virtual signatures. I hope you keep safe. I'd say that UPS warrants a complaint, if you can even get a response at the moment.
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USPS workers all wear masks and are required to observe/practice social distancing. UPS drivers apparently are not because I have not seen any wearing masks/gloves. Don’t know about FedEx
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My UPS guy doesn't even come close for me to sign anything anymore.
He just kinds of tosses the package on my doormat then high tails it outta there.
Good thing is that my packages have all been from IH so no chance of any damage:) -
The UK Government finally announced what the profession have known for sometime, that social distancing measures will be in place for 12 months or more.
I really think this has been apparent for some time at a global level. 12-18 months minimum for a vaccine and no surety that infection gives immunity. The prognosis i Norway is a yo-yo process of tightening and loosening different measures with the intensjon of allowing society to function as normally as possible, while also limiting infection rates and pressure on the health service.
I’m also really unsure based on your post yesterday evening, what it is you are saying…. that the British epidemic is not serious? That the NHS is fine? That measures are not necessary?
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Just got my IH t-shirts and the UPS guy signed for me and stayed >1m away from me.
I believe we'll only know how well each country has done when we're able to compare # COVID deaths-per-million. Even then, it will be dirty because some ascribing a death to COVID isn't that easy and because different countries have completely different population density. Still, it seems that S. Korea has done very, very well. On the other hand, I'm not convinced US, UK, France, Italy, and Spain will look that different.
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Update today from our local (large) acute hospital, capacity has dropped from 50% to 42%. Only 21% of admissions are ICU covid 19.
Interestingly there has been a 20% increase in admissions due to road traffic accidents. People are getting restless.
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@neph93 I can only speak for the East Anglia and South East Essex areas, but national data outside of the large city epicentres report similar things.
Reporting is generally from the large city hospitals. I understand that this is where the greatest risk and impact are, but the majority of people in the UK live in provincial towns, not the cities.
Essex has a population of 1.5 million, so significantly less than Greater London. Obviously the population there are at greater risks.
UK covid 19 'related' deaths are at just under 20,000 as of 22 April. Apparently that hasn't counted care home deaths, when in actual fact it does, there is just a 5 day approx delay in reporting.
I am currently writing deprivation of liberty guidance for local care homes, and need to be very objective. I don't tske the current situation lightly, but data is being reported irresponsibly either a) because the press don't quite understand the picture on the ground, or b) there is intent in doing so
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Unfortunately for the residents of the state of Georgia they are a day away from being part of an experiment in what happens when you re-open business/get on with daily life much too soon. The state is effectively going back to business as usual starting tomorrow with restaurants and bars opening by Monday. Highly doubt the results will be pretty.
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I wonder if many businesses and residents are going to go back to “normal” in Georgia, though? It’s all well and good for them to give people permission to get back out there, but it means nothing if almost everyone still stays home. I’m hoping that these early adopter places (of whom my state of N.C. is a neighbor) will show some common sense even if their governments are trying to experiment on them. And for those idiots that are hell-bent on endangering themselves and others, I hope the damage they do is limited mostly to each other.
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This article is worth reading. Fwiw, even without mass testing I believe large swaths of the world population have already been infected, especially with everyone in the medical community agreeing how contagious covid 19 is. This goes back to the USC and Stanford study about infection rates. If local governments eventually get up and running with mass testing I wouldn’t be surprised if most people test positive. We’re already seeing the virus peak in certain cities, so it’s possible these places have achieved herd immunity.
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