Coronavirus (Covid-19) Discussion
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I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. A few years ago we were seeing in our media that there was an issue with stabbings in London. Someone on my FB page (that lives in the UK) said that if there wasn't a problem and if there was, why didn't he hear about it by now. Fast forward to 2019…
Anyhow, I won't be on the forum much for the foreseeable future. I'm being sent (they like to use the term deployed) to assist in coordinating logistics for the Covid19 response.
Good luck to all of you
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200402144508.htm
This sounds promising.
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You've got to be fucking joking….
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You've got to be fucking joking….
@Giles it makes you despair. We just have to remember that those people are in a tiny minority, though unfortunately risk having the greatest affect on Government policy… Or justification for it.
It is sadly predictive that this bank holiday weekend will be a catalyst for tighter restrictions.
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Wow, went to B&Q's website and found this… Virtual queuing. Crazy.
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Same here, though it is impossible to get a slot…...
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My wife is the commissioner for adult social care in the Local Authority for which she works. She is currently partnering with a number of hotel chains to convert them to older people's residential care homes as there simply aren't enough beds available due to Covid 19. It is a mammoth task to ensure that residents and carers are safe and have all the resources they require.
She was advised today that the staff at a dementia care home have moved into the care home so that they don't have to travel to and from work and risk infecting the public with covid 19.3 residents have symptoms. The NHS have a policy of not testing in the community.
The NHS and other key workers have rightly been applauded by the public and the press. I'd like to acknowledge the sea of carers that are placing themselves at risk everyday to care for our most vulnerable people. Some have died carrying out their duties. The truly are going beyond the call of duty, living with the ones they care for, so selflessly. It made me cry, I'm not ashamed to say. Much love.
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Very distressing
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Australia closed the border to people who aren't citizens or permanent residents early on, and subsequently banned people from travelling overseas without a very good reason.
Over the weekend, the chief medical officer and minister for tourism said that international travel will be the last thing to resume as the lockdown is lifted. The advice is don't plan on it happening this year, and it might well continue until a vaccine is developed, which is at least a year away.
We'd considered heading to the UK at Christmas last year. Shame that didn't happen, as we're not going to be able to visit family for a long time.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52275823
Its a fucking controversy. I have highlighted the risk in care homes since day one. The DH&SC knew this would happen and described it as a necessary risk in teleconferences.
Knowingly letting covid 19 spread and kill residents in care homes is a fucking genocide. Disgusting.
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It’s the same all over the world with homes for the elderly, sadly. Unless the countries response was very quick, they become death traps quickly. Even here where we have been mercifully spared a wildfire epidemic (for a number of reasons), homes for the elderly have been hit.
My county and town currently has a very low level of infection and administrative workers for the council are being used as pickets or limited power security outside this kind of institution.
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@neph93 absolutely, risk was heightened in care homes. Initially most deaths occurred in care home for adults with learning disabilities as it is common for people to have comorbitities. Nationally local authorities were notifying the DH&SC about the risk in care homes. There are 89 homes in the 11x3 Borough that I work in, most for older people.
My day job is working with the Mental Capacity Act and Deprivation of Liberty Safeguards (assessing an adults mental capacity to make specific decisions, and where domestic legislation permits, authorisation of deprivation of liberty, or taking cases to court when required). At present it also involves national level discussions regarding what we can do to prevent people coming into contact with infected residents. The Public Health Act can only be used to contain certain diseases, and covid 19 isn't one. Other legislation has limitations to powers. It's a concern, balancing hard won human rights and safeguards.
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I wonder what are best-of-class (but realistic) precautions for senior facilities. In France, it seems that the confinement has helped but at a high cost. In the retirement home where my grand-father was, the guests were confined in their bedroom with only a few visits a day from the care staff. It's unbelievably depressing. My grand-father found that it wasn't worth it and passed away last week (not of COVID-19; he was 96…)
Places that seem to be doing the best of this shitty situations are the facilities where the care staff chose, en masse, to segregate themselves with the people they were caring for, choosing not to go home to their families. Talk about commitment. Not all heroes wear capes, indeed...
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@JDelage I am so very sorry to hear about your grandfather, but thank you for sharing such personal information. I hope you and your family are coping.
I've been on leave since Friday, but I have no doubt my work email will be full of emergency responses that are required from care homes. We discussed the practicalities of locking mobile, agile, adults with dementia, in their rooms. There are both legal and practical connotations to that approach. Ultimately the relevant Court can determine in this matter in England and Wales, and we are taking as pragmatic response in the interim as is possible.
I truly hope that the care giver workforce are recognised for their tireless work, as well as all the other health and emergency staff all over the world.
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For those of us in the UK, who pretty much depend on what the press tells us/needs us to know. The facts are out there if you look (and Government don't generally expect the public to look - I've been in the room when a former health Secretary actually said as much!).
The following report was published today and contained the following restrictions timeframe
'Public health measures result in a large share of economic activity ceasing for three months, with the restrictions on people’s movement and activity assumed to be lifted progressively over the subsequent three months'
@Giles this may be of interest to you, as a business owner… It helps inform Government policy...and could be helpful to UK based businesses...
