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    • setandsettingS
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      @DougNg:

      Crime has suddenly spiked, home invasions and burglaries are up. Businesses are boarding up windows to deter theft/vandalism. Police don’t respond to anything other than violent crime now. EMS is showing up later and later.

      Do you have a source on this? As of 4/2, NYPD is reporting crime is down 20% since 3/12. Similar reports from the week before.

      I'm in NYC We're chill, everyone we know is chill. Haven't seen anything boarded up though there are lots of farmer's markets going in former bars.

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      • DougNgD
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        Just repeating what my dad said.

        I actually wouldn't be surprised the numbers are padded to make everything seem calmer than they are.

        In Maryland the news says that crime is down, but my friends in the PD say the opposite.

        Underreporting crime is an old trick, it keeps property values up. This strategy has been going on for decades across the country.

        I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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        • DougNgD
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          https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-city-sees-more-burglaries-of-businesses-under-coronavirus-emergency-measures-11586008801

          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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          • DougNgD
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            https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8186835/amp/Wealthy-NYC-businesses-board-stores-defend-against-civil-unrest-virus-decimates-NYPD.html

            https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/04/06/us/teens-attack-woman-caused-coronavirus-trnd/index.html

            I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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            • JDelageJ
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              Both things can be true. It's highly likely that the mix of crimes has changed. So you could have a lot more burglaries and a lot fewer muggings, rapes, pickpocket / handbag grabs, small drug deals, etc.

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              • Stuart.TS
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                @DougNg my cousin and his wife are Very senior in the London Metropolitan Police. She is heading up a ne South London looting squad. It isn't being reported in the UK that London is having episodes of looting so I googled it. The only articles I found were in foreign media, just as with your NYC article in The Daily Mail (a populist right wing p as per who would likely blame any minority for this if they could).

                It's strategic though, and the same reason that there isn't 100% lock down in the UK and USA, so that there isn't mass civil unrest and copycat looting like there was across the UK in 2010.

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                • Stuart.TS
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                  I don't actually think there is much happening here or in the USA @DougNg. They appear to be small isolated incidents.

                  Is there a chance that your dad speaks to what you know when you are in contact? For example my mum and dad will ask me how work is, and then proceed to tell me what's been happening to all the old folk where they live, rather than what they've been doing (because I work for social services). It's a conversational lowest common denominator, one up from talking about the weather.

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                  • DougNgD
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                    I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle. A few years ago we were seeing in our media that there was an issue with stabbings in London. Someone on my FB page (that lives in the UK) said that if there wasn't a problem and if there was, why didn't he hear about it by now. Fast forward to 2019…

                    Anyhow, I won't be on the forum much for the foreseeable future. I'm being sent (they like to use the term deployed) to assist in coordinating logistics for the Covid19 response.

                    Good luck to all of you

                    I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                    • GilesG
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                      Good luck and stay safe @DougNg

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • neph93N
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                        @Giles:

                        Good luck and stay safe @DougNg

                        +1

                        Kick its ass and we’ll see you soon.

                        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

                        • Dame Vera Lynn
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                        • gaseousclayG
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                          https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/04/200402144508.htm

                          This sounds promising.

                          WTB:
                          IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                          IHSH-19

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                          • GilesG
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                            You've got to be fucking joking….

                            https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52221688

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • Stuart.TS
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                              @Giles:

                              You've got to be fucking joking….

                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-52221688

                              @Giles it makes you despair. We just have to remember that those people are in a tiny minority, though unfortunately risk having the greatest affect on Government policy… Or justification for it.

                              It is sadly predictive that this bank holiday weekend will be a catalyst for tighter restrictions.

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                              • Stuart.TS
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                                Wow, went to B&Q's website and found this… Virtual queuing. Crazy.

                                https://kingfisher.queue-it.net/?c=kingfisher&e=prodmainsite&t=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.diy.com%2F&cid=en-GB

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                                • GilesG
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                                  Same here, though it is impossible to get a slot…...

                                  https://www.shipton-mill.com/

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • JDelageJ
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                                    Not a bad system. In France, online grocery ordering was in its infancy and they just can't keep up. The site I was using (we don't have a car) is booked till 04/20! Of course it must be nearly impossible for them to add capacity right now.

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                                    • Stuart.TS
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                                      My wife is the commissioner for adult social care in the Local Authority for which she works. She is currently partnering with a number of hotel chains to convert them to older people's residential care homes as there simply aren't enough beds available due to Covid 19. It is a mammoth task to ensure that residents and carers are safe and have all the resources they require.

                                      She was advised today that the staff at a dementia care home have moved into the care home so that they don't have to travel to and from work and risk infecting the public with covid 19.3 residents have symptoms. The NHS have a policy of not testing in the community.

                                      The NHS and other key workers have rightly been applauded by the public and the press. I'd like to acknowledge the sea of carers that are placing themselves at risk everyday to care for our most vulnerable people. Some have died carrying out their duties. The truly are going beyond the call of duty, living with the ones they care for, so selflessly. It made me cry, I'm not ashamed to say. Much love.

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                                      • JDelageJ
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                                        There's been several cases in France of retirement homes where the staff decided to move in and confine themselves with their guests. It's admirable.

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          Very distressing  😞 😞 😞

                                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52199185

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • GraemeG
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                                            Australia closed the border to people who aren't citizens or permanent residents early on, and subsequently banned people from travelling overseas without a very good reason.

                                            Over the weekend, the chief medical officer and minister for tourism said that international travel will be the last thing to resume as the lockdown is lifted. The advice is don't plan on it happening this year, and it might well continue until a vaccine is developed, which is at least a year away.

                                            We'd considered heading to the UK at Christmas last year. Shame that didn't happen, as we're not going to be able to visit family for a long time.

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