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    • DougNgD
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      As a US govt employee of Health and Human Services I have a couple of observations:

      1. the release of information at the rate that it is intentional (my department was told to tell our constituents everything is going as usual)
      2. the movements and actions are intentional (there was no change in our operations until Monday)
      3. optics and expected responses are being taken into consideration

      Big picture I'm a pretty small fish, so I don't know what's going on behind the curtain, but when everyone was saying that the US govt was pretending that there is nothing going on it was a smokescreen. I still feel like there are some major moving parts moving behind the scenes, I can't explain it.

      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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      • Stuart.TS
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        @DougNg thank you, it is much the same here at Local Government level here. We generally get any new Government directions about 8 hrs before they go to the public with the Government's televised updates in the early evening.

        I think you are right about the major moving parts too. I think some of that will be opportunism, particularly in the private and financial sectors.

        There is already evidence of international companies being bought up wholesale by some countries. Just as with WWII, trade and commerce will be the ultimate beneficiaries of this global struggle. I certainly don't see my cost of living going down anytime soon as a result of this.

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        • DougNgD
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          Now is a good time to think critically before saying things and react (or not react) accordingly.
          A good example was how the EU said that they weren't happy with the US travel restrictions. 72 hrs later, they did the same thing.

          Smoke, mirrors, and calculated emotional responses.
          Because I love to say "I told you so", when Trump said that he was implementing travel restrictions, I looked over at my wife and said "Europe is going to get pissy over that and implement the same thing shortly"
          I get that my President is an unlikable dick, but he wasn't wrong.

          I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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          • JDelageJ
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            This crisis has interesting game theory aspects, i.e., some of the most beneficial outcomes for a group (e.g., plenty of masks for health professionals) might not be the most beneficial at an individual level. I expect there's going a lot of commentary about that before long.

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            • SeulS
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              Of course he wasn't wrong. It was the only sensible decision. However, stumbling fool that he is, did anything but clearly communicate what exactly was going to happen… It had US citizens on holiday so worried they wouldn't be allowed back into their country, that some paid a lot of money to get back again...

              Anyway... This video covers that, ànd is quite funny... Cause John Oliver slaps...

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                That was great!

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                • GilesG
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                  …...In a bygone era — last week, in other words.......

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • louisboscoL
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                    a lot of countries were being very cautious in what restrictions they wanted to impose for a fear of offending another country which resulted in measures applied "after the horse had bolted".

                    some implemented banning flights which always meant there was a loophole of travelling through another. banning a passport seemed harsh but is effective in narrowing down the impact of where the risk might be.

                    a citizen will always allowed back into their own country no matter what lockdown/ restrictions there are in place i believe. the only worry is trying to find flights.

                    "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                    • DougNgD
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                      Jody and I just booked a couple vacations for the fall, airfare is insanely cheap at the moment

                      I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                      • gaseousclayG
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                        https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/03/19/world/coronavirus-flatten-the-curve-countries.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage

                        Another article on ‘flattening the curve,’ and who’s having some success

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                        • GilesG
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                          What's amazing is this is in the future tense….

                          US President Donald Trump said on Thursday he would move to rush the development of vaccines and treatments “as fast as it can possibly be done”

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • neph93N
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                            @Giles:

                            US President Donald Trump said on Thursday he would move to rush the development of vaccines and treatments “as fast as it can possibly be done, golfing commitments permitting…”

                            Fixed

                            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                            • GilesG
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                              😃 😃 😃 😃 😃

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                @DougNg:

                                Jody and I just booked a couple vacations for the fall, airfare is insanely cheap at the moment

                                Did you tack on any last minute cancellation insurance?

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                                  • GraemeG
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                                    An article on the Coronavirus. Looks like restrictions are going to be a thing for another 12 to 18 months.

                                    https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615370/coronavirus-pandemic-social-distancing-18-months/

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                                    • JDelageJ
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                                      If we don't find a way to work around the confinement, such a measure would cripple the economy. The Great Depression would look like a week at ClubMed in comparison.

                                      If this is the only way to stop the disease from running its course, governments will have no other choice but to let the disease run its course. By that point, it would be by far the less painful course of action.

                                      Let's hope we find a cure soon.

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        Meh… the modeling referred to in the article is useful, the idea that this will change everything a lot is one I concure with, and the probablity that measures will last longer than most realise is high, in my opinion. Regardless, the article is quite speculative, and does not take into account potential positive developments like vaccines, treatments or a host of other things.

                                        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                        • JDelageJ
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                                          Agreed.

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                                          • BloodnThunderB
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                                            There is also potential, when testing becomes widely available, the rest of the world does what South Korea did and has everyone get tested.  If in, say six months, a test is available to everyone and it turns out it is already in a vast majority of the populations RNA (which I think in six months or less it will be) then things may calm down quite a bit in terms quarantine.  Obviously there are a whole lot of 'ifs' in that but its not impossible.

                                            Separately, I do hope we all can keep hold of some of the good habits that have been formed during this time.  Assuming we do, it will be interesting to see future cold and flu season numbers post COVID vs. Pre-COVID.

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