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IHJ-54-BLK - Japanese Horsehide Rider's Jacket with Collar - Black (Tea-Core Dye

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    Manticore
    Haraki san Expert
    Joined: 25 Jan 2017

    Help me Obi-Wan… So the XXL arrived and I'd love some sizing feedback. The XL fit looks "cleaner" but is snug when layered and zipped. It's trimmer than my XL IHJ-35 but the look suits the jacket design IMO, especially since it would rarely (if ever) be zipped up. The XXL is roomier when layered/zipped. However I feel it looks somewhat oversized, both in the body and sleeves.

    So... what say you all?

    First comparison is with a 3sixteen heavyweight t-shirt only. Here is the XL:

    And here is the XXL:

    last edited by 15 Feb 2020, 00:17 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Manticore
      Haraki san Expert
      Joined: 25 Jan 2017

      Second comparison is with the 3sixteen heavyweight t-shirt AND IHSH-168 White 7oz western (10oz is probably as thick as I'd go in shirts under this).

      Here is the XL:

      Here is the XXL:

      last edited by 15 Feb 2020, 00:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        xtcclassic
        啓蒙家
        Joined: 13 Feb 2012

        I think the XL looks way better but I prefer my jackets to be pretty fitted and I’ll deal with a bit less comfort to achieve a fitted look. I guess I’m a vain little bitch.  😃 😎

        last edited by 15 Feb 2020, 00:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          Me too

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            profdbrk
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 30 Jul 2018

            @Manticore, I have leathers that fit both ways. But it's the particular jacket's design that makes the difference.  This one begs for a slimmer fit, imo.  Given that it's a thick horsehide, that means it's going to be warm but it's so beautiful you don't need to take it off if you want to stay cozy.  Imagine sitting in the pub, you'll just wear the jacket with a proper tee.  So I too prefer the way the XL fits you here.  There are no bad calls here.

            Qui plume a, guerre a. 不完全さは美しさ,です狂気は天才です

            last edited by 15 Feb 2020, 02:11 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              Manticore
              Haraki san Expert
              Joined: 25 Jan 2017

              Thank you for the feedback gentlemen! I will stick with my original choice of XL.

              last edited by 15 Feb 2020, 03:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Bulatik85
                Joined: 29 Jan 2018

                @Manticore  XL looks better IMHO.

                .Net )

                last edited by 15 Feb 2020, 07:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  Bulatik85
                  Joined: 29 Jan 2018

                  does anybody use this side zippered gussets?
                  what is their role and use case?

                  .Net )

                  last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 07:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    Flaring out the waist when you are sitting on a motorbike or just sitting on anything when the jacket is zipped up…

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                    last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 11:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Bulatik85
                      Joined: 29 Jan 2018

                      @Giles:

                      Flaring out the waist when you are sitting on a motorbike or just sitting on anything when the jacket is zipped up…

                      is it widely used without motorbike? or even used at all?
                      does anybody used it with this particular rider jacket?

                      i would say that unzipping main zipper from the bottom is most obvious decision for me…

                      .Net )

                      last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 12:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        Does it matter?  You don't have to undo the zips….And if you really don't like them, you can buy the Self Edge version that does not have them.....

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                        last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 12:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Bulatik85
                          Joined: 29 Jan 2018

                          @Giles:

                          Does it matter?  You don't have to undo the zips….And if you really don't like them, you can buy the Self Edge version that does not have them.....

                          you are right, I am just trying to understand which version to buy  😉
                          this or SF.

                          to be clear, trying to guess if it matter…

                          .Net )

                          last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 12:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            profdbrk
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 30 Jul 2018

                            The gussets are valuable in my opinion though I understand the "cleaner" look idea.  I have removed the leather pulls though they would be useful with moto gloves on.  When you pull the zippers closed without the pulls, there's yet another "clean look."  I'm glad to have the IH version.

                            Qui plume a, guerre a. 不完全さは美しさ,です狂気は天才です

                            last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 12:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              sabergirl
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                              I know that my body type differs from the majority of men, but I’m sure there are some out there who need extra room at the waist opening for their hips and glutes to be accommodated. I don’t have a racer jacket for this reason, but if I were to get one, I’d probably have to leave the side zips open all the time just to get the jacket to fit and sit on my body the way it was supposed to.

                              I know that’s not the reason the zips are there, but I’m sure they get used that way.

                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                              last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 12:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • hairydanglerH
                                hairydangler
                                Joined: 22 Oct 2017

                                I have the IHJ-54-BRN version of this jacket. I use the side gussets often on motorcycles, vehicles, and just sitting. Pretty much forget and leave them open. Outstanding jacket and the side gussets are much appreciated and very useful.

                                last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 12:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Bulatik85
                                  Joined: 29 Jan 2018

                                  great look on last photo  🙂

                                  and thank you for explanation to everybody!  😎

                                  Now I do see the usefulness of this zippers and understand when to use them.
                                  but after some calculations decided to buy this jacket from SelfEdge, because of some cost reasons.

                                  thank you for everyone, especially for @daltmeyer who helped me to make a choice in different forum threads  😉

                                  .Net )

                                  last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 13:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • hairydanglerH
                                    hairydangler
                                    Joined: 22 Oct 2017

                                    Glad to help @Bulatik85. I am sure you will love the SE edition of this. I have their version of the IHJ-35 and it's outstanding.

                                    I'm not sure what happened to that top photo. It's not that blurry on my phone I didn't think. Oh well I still like that shot a lot.

                                    last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 14:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Manticore
                                      Haraki san Expert
                                      Joined: 25 Jan 2017

                                      Your jacket looks fantastic @daltmeyer !

                                      I have the SE IHJ-35 also and, as mentioned previously, it's my best fitting leather jacket (hence my decision on the 54). However I only got that version because I liked the side pockets and red/black flannel lining; I would have been perfectly happy if it retained the side zips also. The 54 is different enough with the collar and side zips to provide a completely different aesthetic - glad I was able to score both.

                                      last edited by 19 Feb 2020, 05:31 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • hairydanglerH
                                        hairydangler
                                        Joined: 22 Oct 2017

                                        Thank you @Manticore

                                        last edited by 19 Feb 2020, 07:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Manticore
                                          Haraki san Expert
                                          Joined: 25 Jan 2017

                                          Another sizing data point: I stopped by The Shop Vancouver today to see TJ and tried on the XL 54 he has in stock just to compare to mine. I tried it on with an IHSH-229-SNO underneath and, even with the UHF, it definitely felt and looked slightly roomier than my XL in the chest, hips, and waist (fully zipped with side zips down).

                                          I didn't think there would be much variation within the same size run but it seemed that way to me. I also don't think there is much chance of meaningful stretch in this horsehide but someone more knowledgeable than me can confirm…

                                          last edited by 26 Feb 2020, 23:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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