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IHJ-79-BLK - Primaloft® Gold Quilted Riders Jacket - Black

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    cj
    Joined: 4 Jun 2019

    If the weather wasn't 31C and getting hotter then I'd be all over this 😢

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      Cutlasshound
      見習いボス
      Joined: 28 Oct 2013

      @BULLITT:

      I like the subtle design changes compared to the IHJ-38 (was that version 1 of this jacket?).  Both the pocket shapes and the new zipper pulls are nice little details of Iron Heart improving for each generation  😎

      This jackets seems to have sold out fast this time, but for anyone on the fence about this jacket; it's unbelievable warm for how light and thin the jacket is!!  Not full on winter warm, but in the autumn and spring, this thin layer of fabric will in most cases be enough outerwear on top of a shirt or tee.

      Also I like the jacket for travels, with it's light weight and small footprint, should I want to take it off and stuff it in a backpack.  The numerous pockets is also a huge plus for me!

      Only downside I have of the jacket is the very slight "scratchy" noise of the material, but I guess that's unavoidable with all synthetic materials.

      It was the review by @Cutlasshound that sold me on the previous iteration of the jacket, though it would be fitting to share it here:

      @Cutlasshound:

      Rarely do I write about things in any detail on the forum,

      Re sizing, I went for an XXL in the end. I am normally an XL in work shirts, L in tshirts and a XXL in westerns/vests.

      Of all the things that I have

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      Glad to be of service good Sir!

      Seriously great jacket, mine is still going strong!

      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      I ain't got time to bleed.

      last edited by 24 Oct 2019, 07:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        organisys
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 24 Mar 2015

        I like this, but no right now.  😞

        However the IH jackets are underrated. The Jeans, UHF, the Vests, everyone raves about, but the Jacket quality is phenomenal, they are practically bomb proof.

        I've had an IHJ-45 for several years now….looks new after a wipe down.  😎

        Pride of Japan :-)

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          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          In Japan, our technical outerwear does amazingly well.  I'm thinking that this must be because the Japanese are willing to believe that if we can make decent jeans etc, then all our stuff must be pretty good.  I think there is a tendency in the West to think, no way can that be as good as "established technical brand a" or "established technical brand b"

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            Chaintitch
            Joined: 20 Nov 2013

            Oh, Iron Heart outerwear groupies exist…  😘

            last edited by 24 Oct 2019, 19:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              cityofdelusion
              Joined: 1 Jun 2018

              Just some ideas passing by for the next iteration of this jacket:

              • Hidden hoodie for rain
              • Removable zipped liner for extra warmth
              last edited by 1 Nov 2019, 16:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                David K.K. Hansen
                Joined: 12 Nov 2014

                @doguhanca:

                Just some ideas passing by for the next iteration of this jacket:

                • Hidden hoodie for rain
                • Removable zipped liner for extra warmth

                Edit: ignore my comment as I posted in the wrong thread  😛

                last edited by 11 Nov 2019, 21:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  Anesthetist
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 14 May 2011

                  I have the IHJ-08 which is practically the same jacket so I can say that the insulated hood is pretty good. BUT, adding a hood and a liner and I cant imagine this thing being under a grand. For that much you might as well buy the big primaloft parka OR buy this and the IHJ-80.

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                  IG: bluehandsslim

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    Sensible talk…

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      cityofdelusion
                      Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                      @Anesthetist:

                      I have the IHJ-08 which is practically the same jacket so I can say that the insulated hood is pretty good. BUT, adding a hood and a liner and I cant imagine this thing being under a grand. For that much you might as well buy the big primaloft parka OR buy this and the IHJ-80.

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                      @Anesthetist @Giles

                      Both the IHJ-75 (USD1100) and the IHJ-80 (USD 650) are heavier jackets than this jacket (USD 600). They're also made in a different style. Longer for example since they're parkas. You might say that adding a removable liner will increase the weight on the IHJ-79 as well - Yes but it'll be removable after all.

                      Even if so, the removable liner is just an idea - as in mathematics, not a necessary condition but rather a sufficient condition - to perfect the jacket even more. Customers of IH (want to) spend 1.5k on a leather shirt and I can see why as it is absolutely beautiful. When it comes down to it however, functional goes over beautiful and ideally, for IH, the existence of both would be the best. Therefore, paying 1k for a jacket that could meet all the expectations isn't the problem in my opinion - that is if the removable lining even costs that much to begin with. Would you rather for example pay USD 1000 for a smartphone that has the best hardware and software or pay USD 1000 for the smartphone with the best hardware and pay another USD 1000 for the one with the best software?

                      As for the removable/ hidden hoodie, I'd say it wouldn't add much to the price. The IHJ-08 sold for USD 500. Even if adding a removable/ hidden hoodie on the IHJ-79 cost USD 100 more, it'd be absolutely worth it and not much of a sacrifice to make. Someone willing to buy this kind of a jacket for USD 600 could pay USD 100 more for a more complete jacket with more functionality I'd say. That is, once again, if the additional hoodie even costs an additional USD 100. After all, the only "alternatives" to this jacket are the IHJ-75 (USD1100) and the IHJ-80 (USD 650) anyway…

                      The current state of this jacket is rather incomplete to me. It's on its way to be the lightest, most functional jacket but it's not there yet. Someone with a jacket like this would like to travel (light) and still be warm and dry. I'm assuming that's the point. The added hidden hoodie would only contribute to that idea in my opinion.

                      last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 09:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Anesthetist
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 14 May 2011

                        The IHJ-08 sold for $500 5-6 or so years ago. I very much doubt it could be produced for the same price now. Making a vest liner out of primaloft or thinsulate costs almost as much as another jacket.

                        Cost aside, I still think all this plussing defeats the original purpose of the coat which is a warm but lightweight layering piece.

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                          cityofdelusion
                          Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                          @Anesthetist:

                          The IHJ-08 sold for $500 5-6 or so years ago. I very much doubt it could be produced for the same price now. Making a vest liner out of primaloft or thinsulate costs almost as much as another jacket.

                          Cost aside, I still think all this plussing defeats the original purpose of the coat which is a warm but lightweight layering piece.

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                          The plussing is hidden or removable though. The hidden hoodie wouldn't affect the purpose of the jacket and neither would the removable lining. In fact, they'd contribute to the purpose of the jacket making it even more functional than it already is. By the way, the lining could be like a blanket lining to cut down the cost. It doesn't have to be primaloft or thinsulate.

                          Worst case, the hoodie and lining could be sold separately. That'd allow for the jacket to maintain the same price. Only difference would be that people that want the hoodie or lining could additionally purchase and upgrade their jackets if needed. Better to have more options than not. Especially when it's removable or hidden.

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                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            Haraki suggested releasing a jacket with an optional lining a few years ago.  I said "and what the fuck are you going to do with a load of linings that you have not sold at the end of the year?"  He changed his mind…..

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                            last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 13:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              cityofdelusion
                              Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                              @Giles:

                              Haraki suggested releasing a jacket with an optional lining a few years ago.  I said "and what the fuck are you going to do with a load of linings that you have not sold at the end of the year?"  He changed his mind…..

                              But @Giles, do you believe that would still be the case if more than just one jacket (or all) were produced with the same way of adding/ removing a lining? I think with the right pattern tweaking, that is possible to do. Because then you could produce a limited amount of linings a year, say 50 for example and people could upgrade any Iron Heart jacket they own with that lining.

                              Some people would probably buy even more than one just to have the convenience of not switching linings between jackets. Kind of like boxers: You can have just one and keep washing it everyday or own seven, one for each day.

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                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                We are talking to H about releasing a line of extra special, super limited, very expensive stuff.  We'll put this in the mix…..

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 13:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  cityofdelusion
                                  Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                                  @Giles:

                                  We are talking to H about releasing a line of extra special, super limited, very expensive stuff.  We'll put this in the mix…..

                                  Oh-oh  ???

                                  last edited by 13 Nov 2019, 13:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Chaintitch
                                    Joined: 20 Nov 2013

                                    @cityofdelusion  Go check out Ten C, friend…

                                    last edited by 21 Nov 2019, 01:54 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      cityofdelusion
                                      Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                                      @Chain$titch:

                                      @cityofdelusion  Go check out Ten C, friend…

                                      Thanks for the recommendation. I checked it out shortly out of curiosity but I'm afraid it didn't catch my interest at all… I don't purchase anything besides Iron Heart products 99% of the time anyway

                                      last edited by 21 Nov 2019, 10:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        David K.K. Hansen
                                        Joined: 12 Nov 2014

                                        @Giles:

                                        We are talking to H about releasing a line of extra special, super limited, very expensive stuff.  We'll put this in the mix…..

                                        Can you tease us about what it’ll be? Tops/bottoms? Denim, hide or technical stuff?

                                        last edited by 21 Nov 2019, 10:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          No.  Well yes actually, could be all or none of what you mention 🙂 🙂

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                          last edited by 22 Nov 2019, 00:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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