IHJ-79-BLK - Primaloft® Gold Quilted Riders Jacket - Black
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I like the subtle design changes compared to the IHJ-38 (was that version 1 of this jacket?). Both the pocket shapes and the new zipper pulls are nice little details of Iron Heart improving for each generation
This jackets seems to have sold out fast this time, but for anyone on the fence about this jacket; it's unbelievable warm for how light and thin the jacket is!! Not full on winter warm, but in the autumn and spring, this thin layer of fabric will in most cases be enough outerwear on top of a shirt or tee.
Also I like the jacket for travels, with it's light weight and small footprint, should I want to take it off and stuff it in a backpack. The numerous pockets is also a huge plus for me!
Only downside I have of the jacket is the very slight "scratchy" noise of the material, but I guess that's unavoidable with all synthetic materials.
It was the review by @Cutlasshound that sold me on the previous iteration of the jacket, though it would be fitting to share it here:
Rarely do I write about things in any detail on the forum, as time would have me busy doing other things. However I feel that this one deserves something more from me.
One of my biggest problems in life is jackets. I love them. I have a lot of them. One thing that has been lacking for quite some time though, is a decent technical jacket.
I have an old Nike ACG one that performed admirably for years but is now fucked. I also have a Ma.Strum jacket which is based on a coat from the Massimo Osti archives. Its great but it is neither black,nor is it remotely breathable.
I have encountered many that I have liked, but there has always been some issue. Either cost has been ridiculous (Acronym, Veilance, Norse Projects); they have too much or no insulation; are a slim cut (Acronym); or suffer from bad reviews/quality issues (Ten-C).
I had given up my quest. It was however resurrected a fee weeks ago, when whilst sat watching a Quins match, i was smashed in the face/torso by pissing rain and wind for a solid hour. Bugger this I thought, so the search recommenced, only to encounter the same problems.
I had always had my eye on the Quilted Riders jacket. Sort of dismissed it though, as I didnt think that it would suit my needs (warm / ligtweight / breathable / good for layering). Furthermore, it reminded me of the quilted Barbour jackets that have become so popular in recent years and I was not convinced the sizing would work.
Fate had me in Gosport last week and, naturally, within 30 seconds of walking through the door my resolve to not buy anything suffered a catastrophic failure.
As soon as I tried this on, realisation struck that this thing is seriously underrated and understated. It is incredibly lightweight, smart and has excellent insulation properties. Not only that, it is also breathable, which is essential for me as I have a high body temperature most if the time. The comparison between this and the quilted Barbour jackets is also remiss as this just oozes quality.
The nylon shell has a nice sheen to it and is absolutely wind proof. I have not yet worn it in a downpour but in a light drizzle the outer worked effectively as a membrane to repel water.
The cuffs and internal collar are constructed from a nice tightly woven nit and the large standup collar has a lovely soft lining.
The insulation is compact, which means that the jacket does not suffer from being overly bulky. I should also be able to use it as a liner with some of my other coats (RMC M-65 springs to mind, although not tried it yet).
The slanted pockets on the side have a popper fastening. The opening slightly overlaps the inner, which works efficiently at protecting contents and is very practical.
Re sizing, I went for an XXL in the end. I am normally an XL in work shirts, L in tshirts and a XXL in westerns/vests.
Of all the things that I have bought from IH in the last two years, this is the thing that has really come out of the left field for me. When i get the chance I will certainly post some fit pics over the next week or two.
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I like the subtle design changes compared to the IHJ-38 (was that version 1 of this jacket?). Both the pocket shapes and the new zipper pulls are nice little details of Iron Heart improving for each generation
This jackets seems to have sold out fast this time, but for anyone on the fence about this jacket; it's unbelievable warm for how light and thin the jacket is!! Not full on winter warm, but in the autumn and spring, this thin layer of fabric will in most cases be enough outerwear on top of a shirt or tee.
Also I like the jacket for travels, with it's light weight and small footprint, should I want to take it off and stuff it in a backpack. The numerous pockets is also a huge plus for me!
Only downside I have of the jacket is the very slight "scratchy" noise of the material, but I guess that's unavoidable with all synthetic materials.
It was the review by @Cutlasshound that sold me on the previous iteration of the jacket, though it would be fitting to share it here:
Rarely do I write about things in any detail on the forum,
Re sizing, I went for an XXL in the end. I am normally an XL in work shirts, L in tshirts and a XXL in westerns/vests.
Of all the things that I have
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Glad to be of service good Sir!
Seriously great jacket, mine is still going strong!
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I like this, but no right now.
However the IH jackets are underrated. The Jeans, UHF, the Vests, everyone raves about, but the Jacket quality is phenomenal, they are practically bomb proof.
I've had an IHJ-45 for several years now….looks new after a wipe down.
Pride of Japan :-)
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In Japan, our technical outerwear does amazingly well. I'm thinking that this must be because the Japanese are willing to believe that if we can make decent jeans etc, then all our stuff must be pretty good. I think there is a tendency in the West to think, no way can that be as good as "established technical brand a" or "established technical brand b"
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Oh, Iron Heart outerwear groupies exist…
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Just some ideas passing by for the next iteration of this jacket:
- Hidden hoodie for rain
- Removable zipped liner for extra warmth
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@doguhanca:
Just some ideas passing by for the next iteration of this jacket:
- Hidden hoodie for rain
- Removable zipped liner for extra warmth
Edit: ignore my comment as I posted in the wrong thread
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I have the IHJ-08 which is practically the same jacket so I can say that the insulated hood is pretty good. BUT, adding a hood and a liner and I cant imagine this thing being under a grand. For that much you might as well buy the big primaloft parka OR buy this and the IHJ-80.
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I have the IHJ-08 which is practically the same jacket so I can say that the insulated hood is pretty good. BUT, adding a hood and a liner and I cant imagine this thing being under a grand. For that much you might as well buy the big primaloft parka OR buy this and the IHJ-80.
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Both the IHJ-75 (USD1100) and the IHJ-80 (USD 650) are heavier jackets than this jacket (USD 600). They're also made in a different style. Longer for example since they're parkas. You might say that adding a removable liner will increase the weight on the IHJ-79 as well - Yes but it'll be removable after all.
Even if so, the removable liner is just an idea - as in mathematics, not a necessary condition but rather a sufficient condition - to perfect the jacket even more. Customers of IH (want to) spend 1.5k on a leather shirt and I can see why as it is absolutely beautiful. When it comes down to it however, functional goes over beautiful and ideally, for IH, the existence of both would be the best. Therefore, paying 1k for a jacket that could meet all the expectations isn't the problem in my opinion - that is if the removable lining even costs that much to begin with. Would you rather for example pay USD 1000 for a smartphone that has the best hardware and software or pay USD 1000 for the smartphone with the best hardware and pay another USD 1000 for the one with the best software?
As for the removable/ hidden hoodie, I'd say it wouldn't add much to the price. The IHJ-08 sold for USD 500. Even if adding a removable/ hidden hoodie on the IHJ-79 cost USD 100 more, it'd be absolutely worth it and not much of a sacrifice to make. Someone willing to buy this kind of a jacket for USD 600 could pay USD 100 more for a more complete jacket with more functionality I'd say. That is, once again, if the additional hoodie even costs an additional USD 100. After all, the only "alternatives" to this jacket are the IHJ-75 (USD1100) and the IHJ-80 (USD 650) anyway…
The current state of this jacket is rather incomplete to me. It's on its way to be the lightest, most functional jacket but it's not there yet. Someone with a jacket like this would like to travel (light) and still be warm and dry. I'm assuming that's the point. The added hidden hoodie would only contribute to that idea in my opinion.
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The IHJ-08 sold for $500 5-6 or so years ago. I very much doubt it could be produced for the same price now. Making a vest liner out of primaloft or thinsulate costs almost as much as another jacket.
Cost aside, I still think all this plussing defeats the original purpose of the coat which is a warm but lightweight layering piece.
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The IHJ-08 sold for $500 5-6 or so years ago. I very much doubt it could be produced for the same price now. Making a vest liner out of primaloft or thinsulate costs almost as much as another jacket.
Cost aside, I still think all this plussing defeats the original purpose of the coat which is a warm but lightweight layering piece.
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The plussing is hidden or removable though. The hidden hoodie wouldn't affect the purpose of the jacket and neither would the removable lining. In fact, they'd contribute to the purpose of the jacket making it even more functional than it already is. By the way, the lining could be like a blanket lining to cut down the cost. It doesn't have to be primaloft or thinsulate.
Worst case, the hoodie and lining could be sold separately. That'd allow for the jacket to maintain the same price. Only difference would be that people that want the hoodie or lining could additionally purchase and upgrade their jackets if needed. Better to have more options than not. Especially when it's removable or hidden.
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Haraki suggested releasing a jacket with an optional lining a few years ago. I said "and what the fuck are you going to do with a load of linings that you have not sold at the end of the year?" He changed his mind…..
But @Giles, do you believe that would still be the case if more than just one jacket (or all) were produced with the same way of adding/ removing a lining? I think with the right pattern tweaking, that is possible to do. Because then you could produce a limited amount of linings a year, say 50 for example and people could upgrade any Iron Heart jacket they own with that lining.
Some people would probably buy even more than one just to have the convenience of not switching linings between jackets. Kind of like boxers: You can have just one and keep washing it everyday or own seven, one for each day.
