Bike Scam

[Nik]

Sounds like that associate is going to be in trouble.

[tody]

That's an easy one. Even if the cheque clears in the first place, it can be revoked later on. I'm not sure how much longer, but by then the money you sent back will be long gone!

[Giles]

Ah, I thought that once it had cleared, the money was safe

[Paul9221]

The closest I can make of it is that they think that you will deposit the 22K, send them the 7K difference, and then somehow they plan on telling your bank that they did not authorize the check, so they'll get their 22K back plus your 7K.  But once the funds have cleared, I don't know that they can make any such claim.

[Paul9221]

@Giles:

Ah, I thought that once it had cleared, the money was safe

Maybe ask your bank if it's possible for the check-writer to take their money back after it clears.

[Giles]

I'm dicking the guy around….I've just asked for a cheque for the exact amount, let's see what he says......

[Kasi]

Wouldn’t it be easier for a bank transfer.
Or use some western union…

Gives you a pin code collect the money from agents.

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[Giles]

It would, but it won't happen.

The guy/s do not intend to let me have the money. I'm just trying to work out how they do it

[Kasi]

I remember seeing something like this many years back..

It the system…

They input it… then afterwards back to zero..

Once system update again.

Showing no money in the end.

I called it a con

[Giles]

Oh, I know its a con

[goosehd]

I can’t believe they’re still running this scam.  My brother in law had the same thing happen to him about 10 years ago.

I think that it works by you shipping the bike and a cheque for the difference shortly after receiving the fucked up cheque.  The bank will show the fucked up cheque has been deposited in you account for about 10 days before they catch it and then tell you the cheque has bounced.

I guess that if the scam is still being run means sometimes it works in their favour.

[goosehd]

Also:  I don’t think the police even care about it anymore.  (At least in Canada).

[Giles]

So, with the help of one of my mates who knows a lot about this sort of shit….

As @tody says, even a certified cheque can be reversed after funds have cleared.  So someone in on the scam claims that his account was hijacked and the cleared funds are reversed.  Not a problem, if I have not shipped the bike.

The scammers profit is on the £7k that he asks me to send to the "carrier", I send the £7k, he reverses the £22K and I am £7k down….

As I said, I have asked for a cheque for the exact amount, I suspect that will be the last I hear from the bastards.....

[Giles]

@Giles:

I suspect that will be the last I hear from the bastards…..

I was wrong…..

_Hello,
                  You have know problem with the cheque i have contact
my associate that issue the cheque she let me understand that is a big
mistake when you receive the cheque just deposit the cheque in your
bank and ask your bank when the money will be credit in your account
am very sure the money will be credit in your account between 6to7
working days kindly bear with me another cheque can not be issue
okay.just let me know when you receive the cheque and deposit in your
account okay.

Looking forward to read from you soon._

[Giles]

What should I do next to waste more of his time?

[Alex]

Say you put a typo in the address, and they need to send it somewhere else

[goosehd]

Ask him if he’ll talk to you on the phone to straighten this out and give them the local police department telephone number instead of yours’…

[Giles]

2 great ideas

[Kasi]

Tell him You have the drop bike price…

Send a another cheque

If your shipping it send a fake tracking number..
Will keep getting invalid.

If they picking up fake address.

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[mclaincausey]

Wouldn’t reversing payment on a deposited check cut both ways? Why couldn’t someone do so on the £7k while pressing criminal charges?

Too risky for me to suggest doing it, just wondering how this works.