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    IH-888S-21od - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - OD'd

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    • MizmazzleM
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      @Anesthetist @neph93 Thanks gents!! These are all the little bits of advice I was looking for. Really looking forward to watching these things evolve and get all buttery. I sure do look forward to getting dressed these days!!

      In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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      • DmartD
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        If I may, the 21oz OD denim stretches quite a bit in my experience and doesn’t shrink at all. I should have went with a size smaller on mine and would still be fine on the waist but nothing s belt couldn’t handle.

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        • MizmazzleM
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          @Dmart @neph93 @Anesthetist

          Happy New Year boys! Thanks for all the solid feedback. I really can’t convey how much I appreciate all the amazing guidance and camaraderie. I ultimately did size down from a 34 to a 33 and am stoked with the result. It’s much cleaner and trim looking just the way I love my jeans.

          Now I’m wondering about hemming. My other favorite jeans hang just like I like them once broken in at 32” I’m wondering if the length is going to stretch out much and how to best choose a length when sending these babies in for a hem job. Thanks In advance. Im dying to start breaking these in!!

          In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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          • DmartD
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            Looks great!

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            • MizmazzleM
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              @Dmart:

              Looks great!

              Thanks! I’m really happy with the fit now. The others felt like they would be too baggy once they stretched. I think you were spot on with your advice. I’m curious about length? Did you notice a lot of stretch in the inseam as well?

              In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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              • MizmazzleM
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                @Jett129:

                I have the 21OZ  OD in the 555 cut and went with a half inch more than my normal length,just in case,and I don’t mind a little stacking. I wash them and have no problem throwing them in the drier/Shrinkmaster 9000 after.

                Did you find the OD to stretch much in the length after you hemmed and then broke them in? I know they won’t shrink but I’m a bit on the fence with which length to choose. They will be hemmed before I wear them so not sure if they will stretch at the inseam much once I start getting to work on em!!

                In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                  I didn’t find the length to change at all,not in the slightest,even when they stretched out in the waist,but I do ,always wear a belt. I personally like a little stacking,so I tend to go for a length that’s .50 inch longer than usual. This way they look cool with sneakers or boots. Also they don’t ride up too much if I wear them on the bike.

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                  • MizmazzleM
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                    @Jett129:

                    I didn’t find the length to change at all,not in the slightest,even when they stretched out in the waist,but I do ,always wear a belt. I personally like a little stacking,so I tend to go for a length that’s .50 inch longer than usual. This way they look cool with sneakers or boots. Also they don’t ride up too much if I wear them on the bike.

                    @Jett129 i think you and I may have a similar style in this regard. I like a little stacking myself. Like to have the bottom of my pant always resting on my shoe/ boot. Thanks a bunch for the input. Crazy there was no stretch in the inseam length. Super helpful info!!

                    In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                      Inseam won't stretch…how should it? There is no pressure forcing the denim to stretch in that direction. The only thing that could change and affect the overall length is the rise and of course the waist. Both combined can lead to a little bit of sagging which now causes your jeans to sit a bit lower and thus "adding" to the length. The inseam length stays the same but the jeans are lower on your legs.
                      But yeah, cuff your jeans now to the length you want them and feel comfortable with. That's the inseam length you want. If you still want to cuff your jeans, add the size of the cuff you wantto add to that previously determined length.

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                      • DmartD
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                        Haven’t experienced any stretch in the inseam, at least I didn’t notice. You get yours hemmed or do you plan do wear them cuffed?

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                        • MizmazzleM
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                          @Dmart:

                          Haven’t experienced any stretch in the inseam, at least I didn’t notice. You get yours hemmed or do you plan do wear them cuffed?

                          I plan on hemming them. I guess when I ask will the inseam stretch, I mean will the leg gain length during break in, Including rise stretch. I’m more after how will the pants change in the way they lay on my boots from new to break in after they have been hemmed.

                          In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                          • popvultureP
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                            I've never had a pair of IH stretch in the inseam — if anything they might lose a bit in the first wash, depending on the temp of the wash and whether the denim is sanforized and/or rinsed. You shouldn't get any in the OD, as that process should've already knocked any of that out.

                            BUT… depending on how much you hem them, you'll gain a little bit at the leg opening, as they get less tapered the farther up the leg you go. Something to keep in mind. Personally I'd love the 888 to be a little wider at the bottom, but that might not be your thing.

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                            • LewisStonehouseL
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                              Yeah dude they’re not gonna get longer with stretch. This denim probably won’t shrink noticeably having been through the OD process, but you might lose an extra half inch through stacking/combs settling in

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                              • neph93N
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                                As stated, the inseam won’t stretch. The top block will, and that includes the rise but any difference that makes to the length of the inseam is negligible. The inseam from crotch to hem is the the important thing. And the crotch doesn’t hang much lower as the rise stretches.

                                One thing that makes a minor difference is the formation of honeycombs. It has been suggested you may lose as much as half an inch. Again, in my experience this is negligible.

                                Tl/Dr: there will be little to no change.

                                If you’re unsure, just wear them unhemmed for a few weeks. The top block will stretch, honeycombs will form, then get them hemmed.

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                                • MizmazzleM
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                                  I wonder if all the experts in this denim game felt the same trepidation I feel now? Haha. I sent them off to IH already to hem. Went with a 32” which sounds like could end up around a 31.5” once the honey combs set in. My girl thinks 31” would have looked best anyhow so sounds like we may be landing right in between where she likes and I like. What a compromise!!! Haha. I already contacted the boys at IH once to change the hem length so I’m gonna let it ride. Fingers crossed!!!

                                  In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                  • MattM
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                                    I had my 1st pair hemmed.  The last 14 pairs I’ve left alone. I always regret hemming that first pair whenever I wear them.

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                                    • LewisStonehouseL
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                                      @Mizmazzle sure they’ll look great 🙂

                                      I’m with Matt though, I don’t get anything hemmed anymore and just rock cuffs of varying sizes

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                                      • popvultureP
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                                        I'm sorta the same way. I always wear my jeans cuffed, even if I have em hemmed — in fact I'd say the only reason I ever have them hemmed is just so the cuffs don't bulk up too much. If I have a really long pair in something like a 21oz, then more than a double cuff starts to look a bit bubbly.

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                                        • MattM
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                                          I started doing the cuff where you do one big cuff then fold it up to just under the hem. That way the chain stitching shows and you lose more length than a traditional double cuff.  I’m about a true 30” or 31” so I need all the help I can get.

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                                          • MizmazzleM
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                                            This sounds like an interesting progression. I’ve never really liked cuffing my jeans. I’m pretty new to the raw/ selvedge/ heritage game. Got my first pair of raws from Tellason about a year ago come March. It’s been a pretty rapid expansion since then. Have a few IH pieces now and a few Tellason pieces. Got a selvedge denim jacket from Oni that I love. Guess the cuffing aspect hasn’t set in yet, however. I like a nice clean leg I suppose. I get my hemmed 888s back on Monday!!! Can’t wait to see how they fit!!! Hemmed the same length as my Telly’s ultimately. Pics to come for anyone who’s curious haha

                                            In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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