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    IH-888-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    • C
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      @neph93:

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      Does anyone know if the denim breaks in similarly to the overdyed 21oz? My 888s-od’s are the best fit I’ve ever had and I’m wondering if I could expect the same from these. I don’t really care about a break-in period,  as long as they’ll fit the same eventually

      Njaaa… I have both the IH-888s-OD and the IH-888-XHS. They are the same cut, but the denim is very different. They will fit you in a similar way for sure, but there will be differences because of the nature of the denim n

      Despite only 4oz difference in weight the 25oz is a tighter weave and a much stiffer denim out of the bag. You also have some slight shrinkage going in this fabric, while the OD has none, and stretches very easily.

      So it won’t be exactly the same, but it will still have a similar shape and contours.

      Would you say that the OD has a bit more give to it whereas the xhs would retain its original shape? The od fit great off the rack, so I’d be okay with that

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      • neph93N
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        XHS stretches too, it just shrinks first, but the OD stretches a lot more, so yes I’d say it holds its form better.

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          @neph93:

          XHS stretches too, it just shrinks first, but the OD stretches a lot more, so yes I’d say it holds its form better.

          K, it says it’s sanforized but unwashed. Does that mean I should wash it when I buy it or wait until it’s ready for a wash? Maybe it’d be best to avoid that shrinkage at first

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          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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            I would definitely hot soak XHS and try to get all the shrinkage out before you wear them. You can do this by soaking in the hottest water possible and you don't have to wash them

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              @Filthy:

              I would definitely hot soak XHS and try to get all the shrinkage out before you wear them. You can do this by soaking in the hottest water possible and you don't have to wash them

              Man, such heavy denim too tight sounds miserable. I wonder how long it would take for that waist to stretch back out. Maybe I should go on a diet to prepare

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              • JoberwockyJ
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                I hot soaked my XHSib 777 before I wore them the first time (tried them on, new they would stretch to be comfortable, straight into a tub of the hottest water my sad apartment can muster).  The first day was uncomfortable, but I'd say end of day one I wasn't noticing it as much.  I'm a designer in a woodshop and find myself up and down at my desk and the stairs to the shop alot during the day, moving around for sure helped

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                • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                  Uncomfortable is better at first than my fades shifted later on down the line.

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                  • JoberwockyJ
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                    @Filthy:

                    Uncomfortable is better at first than my fades shifted later on down the line.

                    This is what I was afraid of, that and I wanted to know right off the bat how my jeans would feel at their most shrunk

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                      @Filthy:

                      Uncomfortable is better at first than my fades shifted later on down the line.

                      Very true!

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                      • GilesG
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                        My first pair drew blood for 2 weeks…....

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          Is all that really necessary with this denim? I've never tried to get all the potential shrinkage out up front. Just a reasonably warm soak and then wash at moderate temperatures. It's not like it's hard to avoid getting garments saturated in scalding water…

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • GilesG
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                            I don't bother soaking….

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • neph93N
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                              I wouldn’t say it is necessary. I’ve done both and the pir I didn’t soak are my oldest existing pair of IH and one of my favourites.

                              However on balance, I find it a good idea. The best reason to soak for me is my body shape. All cuts with the exception of the 634 are going to snug on me somewhere and the waist/thigh ratio is a constant problem, so knowing what I’m dealing with from the start is a good thing. If you’re a fade purist the risk of comb shift is real so that is a potentially a reason too. Finally, I think that getting all the discomfort out of the way off the bat is preferable rather than spreading it over two rounds.

                              «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                              We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                              • neph93N
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                                @cwcaswell:

                                Man, such heavy denim too tight sounds miserable. I wonder how long it would take for that waist to stretch back out. Maybe I should go on a diet to prepare

                                Such heavy denim is going to be uncomfortable ar first anyway, at least compared to your 21oz OD. It will stretch with wear so you’re looking at a few days of discomfort only. Worth it for what is probably some of the best denim I’ve ever come across.

                                «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  I wasn’t questioning soaking, which I understand is a best practice to embed the constructional stitching and often good for fit. I do it with all my jeans. I was questioning whether eking out ever millimeter of potential shrinkage at extreme temperatures is necessary or even advisable. To each his own, was just curious if I’ve been doing it wrong.

                                  Either way, watch out you don’t burn yourself on a molten rivet, team!

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    Oh I don’t do that. 50-60C soak is all. They won’t ever get washed on more than that.

                                    «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      Ok I’m the same way. Thanks @neph93 I didn’t know whether the guidance had changed. And maybe it’s the cuts and fabrics I’ve chosen but I’ve never had a pair of jeans injure or inflict pain on me (and probably lack the commitment to tolerate such; I prefer for the abuse to flow in the opposite direction), so Imma stay the course on cuts and soaks  😉

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                        For that initial soak, I assume you just throw it in the tub for an hour without scrubbing? Hang dry & hopefully wear the next day?

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                                        • mclaincauseyM
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                                          That's what I do, but I believe agitation has a role to play in shrinkage as well, so perhaps some folks will "stir" the jeans to get a little extra shrinkage out. Since that occurs in the washing machine as well, this makes sense to me.

                                          Basically, I personally don't try to exceed the conditions that the jeans are going to encounter naturally over their life. I use water that is hotter than any cycle I will run, though not astronomically so, so I have not had to stir. It seems that going to extremes could impact the fit and the construction in ways that might be unpredictable or unappealing. But this is speculative, YMMV, to each their own, etc.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                            My initial soak has almost always been a trip through the washing machine. I just make sure the jeans are inside-out and soaked fully through before letting the cycle start. I usually go ahead and run em through the dryer, too. Since that’s the treatment they’ll be getting later, I figure it’s best to get any change in fit out of the way.

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