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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    We are in the process of registering for the European One-Stop Shop (IOSS) system.  But more importantly, we now have a Netherlands VAT number, so we will be shipping in bulk into The Netherlands, clearing customs there, and then on-shipping from The Netherlands.  This will likely add a day or two onto the shipping times, but it will effectively be an intra EU shipment.

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      Lowlander
      Haraki san Expert
      Joined: 4 Oct 2019

      Great news @Giles. Does this also make the  issue of returns less costly for you? If I understood correctly, you're now paying custom duties twice on returned items, right?

      Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-A217F met Tapatalk

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        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        No, we are not paying taxes or duties on the return (well, sometimes we do, because I think the people who work in UPS brokerage share a brain cell, but we can reclaim those, as they are mischarges).

        The issue is, that we cant reclaim the taxes and duties that we paid on our customer's behalf, so when we get a return, we basically piss that away.

        We "sold" two pairs of Wesco boots to a guy in Germany recently.  He returned both pairs.  That cost us Euro600 on taxes, duties, fees, and shipping charges for zero revenue.

        I may as well be ripping up banknotes and flushing them down the toilet, it would be a lot easier way to piss away Euro600.

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          Lowlander
          Haraki san Expert
          Joined: 4 Oct 2019

          What a mess. I'm really sorry to hear it.

          @Giles:

          I may as well be ripping up banknotes and flushing them down the toilet, it would be a lot easier way to piss away Euro600.

          ^And at least that might give a strange rock n roll rush of decadence, which you're not getting this way either. Ugh… what a mess.

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            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            Hahahaha

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              mclaincausey
              見習いボス
              Joined: 12 Apr 2013

              An object lesson in why direct democracy doesn't work: most people are idiots and operate on easily-manipulated feelings instead of wisdom and foresight.

              Sympathies and hopes for an optimal, speedy resolution to all impacted.

              Think it, be it.

              last edited by 25 May 2021, 14:11 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                Brexit was emotive and highly complex.  Almost 6 months in, and we, as a company, are still not getting proper advice on how to deal with it.  We elect our leaders to represent us and to make difficult decisions on our behalf.  I'm not the sharpest tool in the box, but I am not the dullest either, and the complexities were way beyond me. I have older friends who voted to leave "so we could get our old blue passports back and make the empire great again".  I avoid talking to them about it because my forehead would get firmly and violently embedded in the bridge of their noses.

                But there is some joy to be had.  I have a friend who lives as an expat in Spain, he has some British Expat friends who voted to leave (go figure), now they are restricted to being in the EU for no more than 90 days, so they cant use their holiday homes or their boats for a substantial part of the year. Wankers.

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  louisbosco
                  啓蒙家
                  Joined: 21 Feb 2013

                  @Giles:

                  I may as well be ripping up banknotes and flushing them down the toilet, it would be a lot easier way to piss away Euro600.

                  the pub would be a good start  😉 😉

                  "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

                  • Harvey Specter
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                    Chris
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                    @Giles:

                    We "sold" two pairs of Wesco boots to a guy in Germany recently.  He returned both pairs.  That cost us Euro600 on taxes, duties, fees, and shipping charges for zero revenue.

                    I may as well be ripping up banknotes and flushing them down the toilet, it would be a lot easier way to piss away Euro600.

                    Small price to pay to make the Empire great again, eh?

                    (please don't punch me)

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                      Giles
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                      I'll just insert another pin into the wax effigy of you, that I always have to hand….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        Chris
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                        @Giles:

                        I'll just insert another pin into the wax effigy of you, that I always have to hand….

                        So I guess that's not a kidney stone after all.  Good to know  😛

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                          Signal11
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 22 Oct 2016

                          @Giles:

                          I'll just insert another pin into the wax effigy of you, that I always have to hand….

                          Doesn’t creating such a doll require hair from the victim…..?

                          Having no destination, I’m never lost.

                          last edited by 27 May 2021, 15:00 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            I got some whilst he was asleep…... 😉

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              sabergirl
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                              From where?! [emoji15]

                              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                                goosehd
                                Mod Squad
                                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                @sabergirl  😃 😃 😃

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  @sabergirl:

                                  From where?! [emoji15]

                                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                  Well he ain't got any on his bonce…..

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    FFS

                                    Pre Brexshit, I could bring as much deerskin as I liked over from Germany.  Now, we have to do this:

                                    _The Shipper’s Export Declaration (S.E.D) is needed to leave the origin country.

                                    An S.E.D is required by the government when an export:

                                    •Contains any single type of commodity with a value limit.
                                    •Contains a commodity that requires a validated export license regardless of the value.
                                    •Contains a commodity with a license exemption._

                                    I have a horrible feeling The Big Buck just became seriously endangered….

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      kkibbey23
                                      Haraki san Prodigy
                                      Joined: 16 Oct 2013

                                      Wow that sounds like a mess…..

                                      Other than the big buck in outlet do you have others in stock now?

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                                        Giles
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                        No, but we have a run being made at the moment from skins delivered in Dec…..

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                        last edited by 2 Jun 2021, 05:25 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          OK.  After 6 months of experience shipping to the EU, we have a decent amount of empirical evidence under our belts.

                                          1. Shipping via The Netherlands gives us no advantages
                                          2. Paying 12% duty on Japanese goods shipped from UK to EU is unavoidable
                                          3. We will revert to shipping direct
                                          4. We will continue to ship DDP, which means that we will pick up any VAT, duty and fees on your behalf
                                          5. We have had to increase return shipping from the EU back to the UK to USD35.  It costs more to ship back to us from EU now than virtually anywhere else in the world
                                          6. We have had to implement an additional charge for the following countries:
                                            Latvia
                                            Estonia
                                            Lithuania
                                            Bulgaria
                                            Romania
                                            Croatia
                                            Greece
                                            These countries have decided that they can make money out of Brexit.  For instance imports into Greece are charged an additional £34.57 brokerage charge plus £12.80 storage on top of VAT, duty, disbursement. So to send a USD32 pair of socks, we pay circa GBP90 for the shipping and associated costs…..

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                          last edited by 27 Jul 2021, 13:15 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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