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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    21oz Shinayaka Selvedge Denim

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    • neph93N
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      @gpag:

      I am so excited about this. I have the 888 in 21s and SBG but my thighs keep growing from training and they are almost too tight on the legs. This is exactly what I’ve been looking for. Hoping in black also! Thanks guys!

      Should work well for you. I can’t really wear 555’s normally, but these give me full range of movement despite being quite snug on my thighs.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

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      • xtcclassicX
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        @Giles:

        Haraki has been developing this new denim for 3 years.  Until he had got the amount of flex he was looking for and the look and feel of our signature 21oz indigo selvedge denim, he just kept on trying.

        He has developed this denim so that it makes slim and tapered jeans more comfortable when riding of doing manual labour which involves a lot to bending and crouching…

        But Haraki is an innovator, that is what makes Iron Heart what it is.  Suppress that mad professor like innovation and edge-of-the-envelope surfing genius, and you rip the heart and soul out of the brand.  You would not have 25oz, you would not have UHFs, you would not have had paper denim, or ridiculously heavy chambrays, or the best N1s in the world, or 7.5oz t-shirts etc etc etc...

        ...we have had our largest single order in the history of Iron Heart for these jeans from one retailer, and we have had to double our initial production run of the denim, so it obviously works for someone.

        So please be open minded about it, we are not selling out.

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m at least semi-open-minded about it. I won’t even rule out the possibility of trying it someday (I don’t really personally see the need for it for myself as I feel the 21oz already has plenty of give, but if the same treatment was given to the 25oz denim it would at least give me pause). These are all good points, it’s just that in my mind denim should be rugged and tough, and stretch denim is anything but IMHO. Granted, maybe that’s because until now there has been no stretch IH 21oz denim. But I’ve just always had a healthy bit of disdain for stretch denim for men’s jeans (totally get it for women’s jeans, if this denim had been developed to lure more women into the IH fold I never would have questioned it).

        I definitely applaud H’s innovator spirit. As you indicated, IH wouldn’t be what it is without it. I’ve certainly embraced the lighter-weight denim that I once was somewhat unsure of, so maybe a couple years down the line I’ll wonder why I even questioned it. I’m just a bit of a purist when it comes to denim, at least as far as the construction and the fabric itself is concerned. As long as IH doesn’t sacrifice quality and taste in pursuit of market share I will remain open-minded.

        Hell, maybe the stretch in the knees will combat knee-bagging, if so that might warm me up to the idea.

        So, uhhh… hahaha... when is this denim getting released in the 777 cut, again? Asking for a friend, not for myself, of course.  😃

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        • GilesG
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            @neph93 that 555 cut is perfect on you - thanks for the pics

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            • neph93N
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              @b1lf:

              @neph93 that 555 cut is perfect on you - thanks for the pics

              Thank you. I did a bit of a pic dump on the forum IG a couple of days ago:

              https://instagram.com/p/CKxDwtNjBFp/

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

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              • neph93N
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                Fades coming in around on the high contrast areas. The colourshift is starting on the thighs as well, buy it needs good light. I recently picked up a fresh pair is the standard 21oz and was able to do a first hand comparison. There is really very little difference. Lovely stuff.




                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • popvultureP
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                  Yeah looks exactly like reg 21oz to me! Killer!

                  WTB
                  IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                  Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                  • neph93N
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                    Update time!

                    This pair just got their second wash after another stint as work jeans. They are at around 100 wear days. Fading is starting for real, and based on earlier experience with regular 21oz, this is where things start accelerating.

                    The denim still looks and behaves like the flagship denim, although after the second wash, the elastane has given up a little, meaning that they don’t seem to have tightened up after seeing 40C water. They were much more forgiving to put on this time compared to when new and after the first wash. There is still stretch in the material but it doesn't need to work so hard any more. The elastane meant these jeans were always comfy even when tight, but now they are an absolute dream.







                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                    • neph93N
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                      Some pics on my legs…









                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                      • neph93N
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                        Details…





                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                        • dinobarnesberlinD
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                          looking great after 100 wears .
                          Really interesting to read your review on them, and about the elastane breaking in after that second wash.
                          They look amazing at this early point – That color of blue starting to peek out is the best.

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                          • tvenutoT
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                            Looking great.  I agree that these could pass for the 21oz 100% cotton.  I'll be picking these up for sure.

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                              I hope these end up getting made for years to come. I’ve gotten so many new pants recently, it won’t be in the cards to grab these immediately. After begging so long for iron heart stretch denim, I feel like a bad customer [emoji23]

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                              • tvenutoT
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                                Me thinking about getting in shape after pandemic:

                                Me after IH releases stretch denim:

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                                • neph93N
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                                  Haha… 888 in these will be perfect for your needs @tvenuto. Just don't call them your fat pants  😉

                                  “Some of those that work forces
                                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                  • spitfiredealerS
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                                    After I am done with the SBG’s I am
                                    definitely copping some of this denim. Probably in a 555

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                                    • neph93N
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                                      @spitfiredealer:

                                      After I am done with the SBG’s …

                                      So some time next week then? Those things are probably shredded already knowing you…  😉

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                      • spitfiredealerS
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                                        Ha not quite yet. They did get another shower wash tonight as I got ridiculously dirty today.
                                        I am not going to trash them completely, want to have a nice faded pair of black jeans rather than and trashed unwearable pair.

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                                        • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                          @neph93 that denim appears virtually identical to the 21oz lht as far as I can tell. Pretty sweet.

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            @neph93 that denim appears virtually identical to the 21oz lht as far as I can tell. Pretty sweet.

                                            Having recently picked up the IH-463, I’m better able to compare properly.

                                            Really, the only difference visually is the slightly darker weft on the Shinayaka, and you can’t spot that until they are side to side.

                                            In terms of the hand, the OG 21oz is slightly drier to the touch. Has a more papery feel. When it comes to wear, the Shinayaka feels slightly more dense when new. That is dissapating now as the elastic effect is reduced. Obviously the Shinayaka moves better with the body.

                                            When it comes to fading, I don’t think there is any difference.

                                            All in all they are so similar you’d have to be a total nerd to spot even a small difference in appearance [emoji2327]

                                            “Some of those that work forces
                                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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