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    • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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      Thanks G.

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      • BD81B
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        Glad to hear that you are getting better !

        Welcome back 🤘

        R.I.P. Filthy🤘

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        • KasiK
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          Mike
          Speedy recovery, fight it get better

          Not an admin. Not a mod. But the guy whose fits turn heads and whose name comes up when people ask, “how should this piece fit?” 🖕

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          • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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            Thanks gents 😄

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            • motojoboboM
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              Get well soon Mike!

              The journey is the objective.

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              • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                Thanks 😄

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                  I've been thinking about my shopping strategy recently.  The two main options are

                  • Quick trips to the store every few days lasting under 15 minutes.  You come in contact with more people but the viral load is small if someone in the store sick.

                  • Longer trips every week to 10 days lasting about 45 minutes.  You come in contact with less people but the time spent in a potentially infection environment is longer.

                  In both cases, I would go to the store in the evening to minimize time spent in the checkout line.

                  So far, I've opted for strategy (1) because from what I've read viral load is an important factor in determining how sick you become.  However, it seems that many people are choosing strategy (2) and that's what news outlets are recommending as well.

                  Does anyone have any opinions, information, or evidence to support either of these strategies?

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                  • Stuart.TS
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                    And there you go, as predicted in June, hard lockdown in tier 4 England. No Christmas visits. A no leaving home order is in place. What Joe public might not fully understand is that in domestic law in England in areas where it applies, you can be prosecuted for leaving your home without a good reason. WOW.

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                    • KasiK
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                      I go weekly go visit my mum, the graveyard took it by a storm over 200 deaths due to covid..

                      A lot people I know in my town.  ::) 😞

                      Normally it would be 10 to 12 deaths a year.

                      This is completely madness.. :o ???

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                      • JDelageJ
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                        This is certainly unusual. A ratio of 10-to-12 deaths a year going to 200 for COVID is unheard of. In the US, as a whole, we're getting to 300k COVID-related deaths, which is about a 10% increase in total annual deaths (very much a back of the envelope calculation).

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                        • KasiK
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                          My town is a small town, that the Muslims community… others have had cremation

                          United Kingdom is a small Island..

                          Here are the figures

                          More people have die this year than ever..

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                          • louisboscoL
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                            @JDelage:

                            This is certainly unusual. A ratio of 10-to-12 deaths a year going to 200 for COVID is unheard of. In the US, as a whole, we're getting to 300k COVID-related deaths, which is about a 10% increase in total annual deaths (very much a back of the envelope calculation).

                            In Perth, Covid is non-existent. 0 cases within the community since May and the freedom to live life as normal. Even in Singapore (another place I'm familiar with and usually frequent), the Covid death rate is less than 30 with cases of over 50k. It is almost impossible for me to understand the figures in other places or relate to what is going on.

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                              I don’t understand how those of us in the US have become so desensitized to hundreds or thousands of deaths a day. Our response to this has been terrible, and it makes me very sad.

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                              • Stuart.TS
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                                Thurrock, a Borough in South East England, has the highest rates in the UK. Its where my wife and I are from, and where our parents still live.

                                My wife has been on a call with the Health Minister today. That is unheard of. The UK haven't had a state of national emergency, with all the powers that brings with it, for decades.

                                I could rant on all day about the blatant disregard lots of people have for the guidance and law re covid. We went for a walk in a forest yesterday. The numbers of multiple household groups we observed was appalling.

                                I can't even describe the pressure we in the public sector are under, and the media can't even start to reflect it. We are stressed, exhausted, and just fucking exacerbated by the public's (in part), disregard for guidance.

                                Please, please, think about what you do and what the consequences might be.

                                Take care everyone.

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                                • JDelageJ
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                                  @Stuart.T:

                                  We went for a walk in a forest yesterday. The numbers of multiple household groups we observed was appalling.

                                  That's perfectly OK outdoors, let's be serious here.

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    Not according to UK Govt guidelines….

                                    What does tier 4 mean?
                                    Under tier 4 restrictions, non-essential shops, hairdressers, and leisure and entertainment venues must close, with a new “stay at home” message introduced.

                                    People who need to travel for education or childcare are exempt, and exercise is unlimited. Where people cannot work from home, they will still be able to travel to work.

                                    Under the measures, households are not allowed to mix, but one person is allowed to meet with one other person outside in a public space. Support bubbles and those meeting for childcare are exempt.

                                    Those who are deemed clinically extremely vulnerable should not go to work and should limit time outside of their homes.

                                    Tier 4 residents must not stay overnight away from home, and cannot travel abroad.

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                                    • JDelageJ
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                                      All I'm saying is that gathering outdoors - as long as you stay 6ft away or wear a mask, etc - is perfectly fine. If the UK guidelines don't agree with that, then they are not in line with current science, and are probably undermining their own effectiveness by making unreasonable and ungrounded requests.

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        ….gathering outdoors - as long as you stay 6ft away or wear a mask, etc - is perfectly fine....

                                        I rather think the tier 4 measurements are deemed necessary precisely because some folks are not doing a great job with the 6ft and the masks.

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                                        • KasiK
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                                          No matter what science they bring out..

                                          Do people follow the rules, they don’t
                                          That why it a mess in the first place.
                                          Take a look here how the world is now..

                                          https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

                                          It gonna be a long ride… till it over..

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                                          • JDelageJ
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                                            @neph93 - This reminds me of the old trope of the case of the 60mph limited road where a drunk driver driving at 80mph killed a pedestrian. The city council's response is to immediately lower the speed limit to 50mph…

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