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      si tacuisses

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      • neph93N
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        ^My relationship with PF is long and deep. But I struggle now. RW was a hero of mine from when I was 15, and his stubbornness and bloody mindedness an inspiration. Now I just feel let down by him time and time again.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

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        • neph93N
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          Norwegian Death Pop…

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

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            @neph93 I have immense respect for RW artistically, but if I had to pick between him and DG, DG easily wins. Waters probably falls behind DG AND RW for me.

            I will admit to not being as big a fan of SB, but I should give some deeper listens soon.

            Think it, be it.

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            • neph93N
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              @mclaincausey I can never avoid mixing the art with the artist. I'll admit to forgiving some great artists with views that are distasteful to me, while I'll despise artists I deem mediocre for the same thing. For example I worship the poet Philiup Larkin, but fucking hate Morrisey.

              While RW's contribution to PF and his solo material in the 80's is iconic, his attitudes now just seem the product of a man who doesn't go to the therapy he can clearly afford.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

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              • goosehdG
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                Have always loved Pink Floyd and their Pulse tour was my favourite concert experience (and sadly my only experience with them)!!  I think I was the highest I’ve ever been in my life, and didn’t smoke a thing.  Outdoor concert in Toronto, and the haze was thick!

                Waters made that group great and was sad to see him leave.  Gilmore is very, very good, but waters made it just about perfect.

                Barrett made it perfect!!

                That band has influenced just about everything I love about music.  Blues, jazz, big sounds, subtlety, and just pure power.

                Waters on his own is just…

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                  @goosehd:

                  Waters on his own is just…

                  I've got time for his solo stuff, but mostly because I enjoy his poetry. Musically it is… not that great  😃

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                    Morrisey with the Smiths was awesome!  Everything since…

                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                      Morrisey with the Smiths was awesome!  Everything since…

                      I actually never had much time for The Smiths then, although now I realise that Marr's guitar playing was great and they have some awesome songs. Morrissey I would happily travel back in time to off. Waste of oxygen imho.

                      “Some of those that work forces
                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                        @neph93:

                        @goosehd:

                        Morrisey with the Smiths was awesome!  Everything since…

                        I actually never had much time for The Smiths then, although now I realise that Marr's guitar playing was great and they have some awesome songs. Morrissey I would happily travel back in time to off. Waste of oxygen imho.

                        Agreed!!!

                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          When I look at the PF catalog, I see my favorites from Meddle through Animals, a childhood favorite (I was angsty) that I still love but can't hold quite in the same esteem as those previous albums today in The Wall, a thoroughly forgettable second Waters-led album in The Final Cut, and then some inconsistent Gilmour-led material that had a few gems like "Learning to Fly." When I think about all that together, the things that mostly stand out to me are Gilmour tracks and the amazing keyboard work of Wright. That is why Waters takes a back seat for me. I know he's a dick, but have not really stayed on top of precisely why he's been a dick, so while I also sometimes struggle to separate art from artist, it's the quality of the art in my case that ranks my Floyd appreciation.

                          Think it, be it.

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                            @mclaincausey:

                            I also sometimes struggle to separate art from artist, it's the quality of the art in my case that ranks my Floyd appreciation.

                            Agreed. Although personal preference dictates that Animals has always been my favourite record (also Waters led), while The Final Cut has value to me. Meddle and DSOTM are just lovely, and I really enjoy the apocrypha like Saucerful and Obscured (Barret/Gilmour). Divison Bell can suck a fuck as far as I'm concerned. It's only saving grace is the keyboard noodling.

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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                              Also, I was an angsty teen, but I'm sadly an angsty adult too  😃 Waters should pay for my therapy.

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                    It Ain’t Over ….;-)!

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                                      @neph93:

                                      @mclaincausey:

                                      I also sometimes struggle to separate art from artist, it's the quality of the art in my case that ranks my Floyd appreciation.

                                      Agreed. Although personal preference dictates that Animals has always been my favourite record (also Waters led), while The Final Cut has value to me. Meddle and DSOTM are just lovely, and I really enjoy the apocrypha like Saucerful and Obscured (Barret/Gilmour). Divison Bell can suck a fuck as far as I'm concerned. It's only saving grace is the keyboard noodling.

                                      Animals is also my favorite, with Meddle close behind. Waters is my man. Gilmour's an amazing guitarist, of course, but I always felt like Roger was the beating, angsty heart of that band.

                                      WTB
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                                      • goosehdG
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                                        @neph93 Thanks again!

                                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                          @IH-GARY the Billy Strings shows in the UK appear to be available to download (for purchase) on Nugs: https://2nu.gs/3tuG9hu

                                          I look forward to listening to them on my streaming account with them.

                                          Think it, be it.

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                                          • IH-GARYI
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                                            Cheers for the info @mclaincausey - listening now! Wish all my fave artists would support Nugs as much as Billy!
                                            I subscribed a few years a go for the Tyler Childers gigs but he stopped posting in 2019.

                                            I've got Brothers Osbourne and Kingfish gigs coming up soon - great to be back attending live events!

                                            My contribution, to urban blues…

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