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    • escanderAE
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      However, these 301S that I had are noticeably softer than all the others IH.., maybe a lower thread tension was used when weaving ..?!

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      • GilesG
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        Correct, nor had they been told.  Classic lost in translation between Haraki and me…. 🙂

        What Haraki thinks important is very different from most people.

        G - Are these T-shirts loopwheel
        H - No idea, why?

        G - Is this cotton from Zimbabwe
        H - No, why.  It's the same spec, what's the issue?

        G - Why do the IH-301S's not have a selvedge outseam?
        H - Because it makes no difference to their functionality whether they do or not - the denim is the same either way

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        • escanderAE
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          I don’t quite agree, for many people selvedge hem, which is visible on the cuffs of the legs, is an essential attribute of correct jeans, such a fetish, it’s more than just clothes, it’s a lifestyle ..!

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          • henry_davidH
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            Function > style  😎

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            • neph93N
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              @escanderA:

              I don’t quite agree, for many people selvedge hem, which is visible on the cuffs of the legs, is an essential attribute of correct jeans, such a fetish, it’s more than just clothes, it’s a lifestyle ..!

              Each to their own. But it isn’t important to Haraki-san.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

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              • escanderAE
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                I am glad that Haraki considers this all important, and if he changes his approach, then it will no longer be Iron Hearts, and I will no longer be interested in this, since I will never wear jeans with elastane, I’m probably just a person of the old formation ..

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                • neph93N
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                  Don’t worry, I don’t think he is going to stop making 100% cotton selvedge. Although the new stretch denim is  selvedge too, of course.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

                  • Virginia Woolf
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                  • escanderAE
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                    @neph93:

                    Don’t worry, I don’t think he is going to stop making 100% cotton selvedge. Although the new stretch denim is  selvedge too, of course.

                    Yes, I noticed that many famous brands, like PURE BLUE JAPAN, started using different synthetic threads, when the weather is cool, it is still tolerable, but when it's hot, then it's already a problem ..!?!

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                    • an_apple_sodaA
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                      Can anyone that’s owns the 301S & the 8301S comment on how they fit in comparison to each other?  Love my 8301S, but the 301S looks to be a smidge narrower?

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                      I love long walks on the beach & 21oz denim.

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                      • an_apple_sodaA
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                        @an_apple_soda:

                        Can anyone that’s owns the 301S & the 8301S comment on how they fit in comparison to each other?  Love my 8301S, but the 301S looks to be a smidge narrower?

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                        Well, I went ahead and picked up the 301S in the same size as my 8301S (33), and they are a little more snug. Not bad as I can still fit, but they are definitely tighter in the thigh. Everything else seems to be identical (waist, knee, leg opening). I have worn them a handful of times & I can tell they are starting to loose up.

                        I figured I’d put that down, in case anyone else was in the same predicament as I was!

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                        I love long walks on the beach & 21oz denim.

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                        • AppfaffA
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                          @an_apple_soda - hey bud, sorry we missed the alert when you first commented a few weeks ago.

                          You are correct, the 8301s has traditionally been cut larger than the typical 301s. However, the SBG fabric will shrink a bit with a first wash, and stretch a bit less than the typical 21oz, so in theory after a few washes and the same amount of wears, they would "end up" being similar in size.

                          I hope you enjoy both pairs!

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                          • an_apple_sodaA
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                            @Appfaff:

                            @an_apple_soda - hey bud, sorry we missed the alert when you first commented a few weeks ago.

                            You are correct, the 8301s has traditionally been cut larger than the typical 301s. However, the SBG fabric will shrink a bit with a first wash, and stretch a bit less than the typical 21oz, so in theory after a few washes and the same amount of wears, they would "end up" being similar in size.

                            I hope you enjoy both pairs!

                            Hey, no worries, and that’s some good info!

                            Yes, I love them both! It took me awhile to find a pair of 301S in my size that had not been worn much or faded already. They are the perfect amount of slim, but straight enough where I can still get them over my cowboy boots.

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                            I love long walks on the beach & 21oz denim.

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                            • AppfaffA
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                              @an_apple_soda - amen to that. Exactly the reason I have had at least one variant of 301s in my rotation for the last 6 years lol

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                                yannis
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                                For all of you guys and gals familiar with this cut is it similar to the 777's.

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                                • neph93N
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                                  @yannis:

                                  For all of you guys and gals familiar with this cut is it similar to the 777's.

                                  They’re both low rise/slim tapered, but the 301 has a much more relaxed top block than the 777 and it not quite as slim.

                                  “Some of those that work forces
                                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                    yannis
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                                    Thank you sir!

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                                      A few shots after the most recent soak. Have had these 9 yrs or so and were in rotation 2015-17, but still like old friends when I break them out.
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                                      • SKTS
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                                        Great looking pair of jeans you’ve got there @DK I’d break those out a lot

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                                        • Denimhead 0D
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                                          New to me 301S 21 oz, perfect riding jeans.
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                                          IG - gratefuldenimhead (jeans and boots), Norseamerican (bicycles)

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