IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo
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@neph93 thank you! Going to give them a go.
My pleasure. I’ll add that we’re still talking about heavy denim, so it is all relative, as is individual tolerance, but I can happily rock 21oz in 25C and above, whereas XHS get’s furloughed when it gets over 21-22C.
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Hey! Just ordered them and then realized the measurements for the waist on the size 31 on the 888 XHSib is bigger than on the 31 888s. I’m going to need the 32.
Can anyone here help me change the order? I’ve sent an email to shop@ironheart.com and shop@ironheart.co.uk but I’m a bit panicked because I called for a hem. I think @Graham has contacted me before processing my orders in the past.
Little help?
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Hey! Just ordered them and then realized the measurements for the waist on the size 31 on the 888 XHSib is bigger than on the 31 888s. I’m going to need the 32.
Can anyone here help me change the order? I’ve sent an email to shop@ironheart.com and shop@ironheart.co.uk but I’m a bit panicked because I called for a hem. I think @Graham has contacted me before processing my orders in the past.
Little help?
Keep in mind that the XHSib is unwashed while the 888s is one-washed (little to no shrinkage expected).
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Hey! Just ordered them and then realized the measurements for the waist on the size 31 on the 888 XHSib is bigger than on the 31 888s. I’m going to need the 32.
Can anyone here help me change the order?
Yeah it was around 3am Saturday night when you sent the mail. You can totally relax as it is also Sunday today so there may not be an answer today either, and no orders will be processed until Monday anyway. I guarantee you will hear from them before they start processing the order.
However as mentioned I think you will find you want the W31. The XHS shrinks 0.5-1” in the waist before stretching out about an 1”. The 21oz will not shrink and may well stretch over an inch with wear. The w32 will end up being too big for you, I think.
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Hey! Just ordered them and then realized the measurements for the waist on the size 31 on the 888 XHSib is bigger than on the 31 888s. I’m going to need the 32.
Can anyone here help me change the order?
Yeah it was around 3am Saturday night when you sent the mail. You can totally relax as it is also Sunday today so there may not be an answer today either, and no orders will be processed until Monday anyway. I guarantee you will hear from them before they start processing the order.
However as mentioned I think you will find you want the W31. The XHS shrinks 0.5-1” in the waist before stretching out about an 1”. The 21oz will not shrink and may well stretch over an inch with wear. The w32 will end up being too big for you, I think.
Never underestimate the ability of the 21oz to stretch like crazy in the waist. I had the same thought reading this.
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Nothing will happen to your jeans until the guys have read emails and corresponded with you. It is our standard practice to contact people who have ordered hemming to double-check the sizing, before we do anything with the jeans. You would be amazed by how many people don't bother to measure or look at the sizing charts
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Wow! Thank you very much everyone! I’ve already heard from Adam this morning. This community and brand are the best! Much appreciated
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And by the way, I've worn the 21 oz denim throughout Texas summers, so if you want to, you can do it relatively comfortably. It is definitely a matter of individual preference/ tolerance to heat, however.
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Hi all. I have been reading the forum for a while but this is my first post. I’m not sure if this is the right spot to post this, so please move if necessary.
I have been wearing a pair of 888s exclusively for about four months and absolutely love them. I have been looking for the perfect fit for a while and I think I have found it in the 888s. With that said, I would like to get another pair to put into the rotation. Any suggestions on another pair from a different company with a similar fit? Or do I just buy another pair of 888s or maybe the 633 from SE? Any suggestions or guidance would be greatly appreciated.
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633 is fairly different to the 888. The top block is much lower and trimmer and the 888 tapers from the hip while the 633 tapers from the knee.
Lots of other brands do variations on the relaxed tapered cut… but if he 888 works for you then why not stick with it? I have four pairs of 888 in fact. The original UHR (extinct now), a pair of 21oz OD (IH-888s-OD), and two pairs of XHS, the regular and the XHSib. I have two different sizes for a relaxed fit and a trimmer fit.
There is a wide range of weights (from 14oz to 25oz) and denim types available (including black, overdyed, black and indigo, etc.
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633 is fairly different to the 888. The top block is much lower and trimmer and the 888 tapers from the hip while the 633 tapers from the knee.
Lots of other brands do variations on the relaxed tapered cut… but if he 888 works for you then why mot stick with? There is a wide range of weights (from 14oz to 25oz) and denim types available (including black, overdyed, black and indigo, etc. I have four pairs of 888 in fact.
Thanks for the quick reply. Your posts were really helpful in helping me decide to purchase the first pair of 888s.
That’s what I have been thinking. The 888 and IH in general are so good, I am thinking I may be disappointed in something else. I thought I would ask, though, just in case there was some other brand/cut I should be trying out.
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That’s what I have been thinking. The 888 and IH in general are so good, I am thinking I may be disappointed in something else. I thought I would ask, though, just in case there was some other brand/cut I should be trying out.
Can’t really help re other brands as with the exception of some older Livid Jeans products, an indigofera vest, some MrF and Merz tops, I only own IH.
Some folks can do multiple cuts, some folks stick to one. 888 is certainly my best cut, but I have others too.
Updated my original post to include which pairs of 888 I have. There really is great variation you can achieve with the different denims.
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Great, thanks again for the info. I have bigger, not huge, thighs from working out so I have trouble finding comfortable denim. My days of “tight” jeans are behind me and I prefer a tapered look with a little bit of room in the thighs/top block. So, the 888 is perfect for me. Hopefully they don’t ever stop making them!
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@neph93 I was just checking out the XHS, that may be the direction I head in. What is the difference in feel like between the 21 and 25oz? I have been wearing the 21s through a hot summer, so maybe the XHS could be my winter pair.
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That is my go-to denim from now until May, but I live in northern Norway…
As far as variations on indigo denim go they are as different as they can be. The 25oz is very dark indigo, noticeably heavier, stiffer and tougher to the touch. This makes them less comfortable than the 21oz initially. They do need breaking in, but when it is done they become very comfortable indeed.
They have a more uneven, slightly slubby hand that gives attractive vertical fading with wear. They fade with very high contrast.
They are not fully sanforised like the 21oz so will shrink a little. You can get this done with a hot soak before wearing if you prefer. Some do, some don’t.
I think if I could only have one denim for the rest of my days it would be the XHS.
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That is my go-to denim from now until May, but I live in northern Norway…
As far as variations on indigo denim go they are as different as they can be. The 25oz is very dark indigo, noticeably heavier, stiffer and tougher to the touch. This makes them less comfortable than the 21oz initially. They do need breaking in, but when it is done they become very comfortable indeed.
They have a more uneven, slightly slubby hand that gives attractive vertical fading with wear. They fade with very high contrast.
They are not fully sanforised like the 21oz so will shrink a little. You can get this done with a hot soak before wearing if you prefer. Some do, some don’t.
I think if I could only have one denim for the rest of my days it would be the XHS.
Great explanation and info! I think that the XHS will probably be my next pair. Thanks again for the direction.
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The 888 and IH in general are so good, I am thinking I may be disappointed in something else.
It depends on what you love about your 888s …
Are there slubbier denims? Yes
Are there more aggressive tapered pairs? Yes
Are there heavier/lighter pairs of “similar fit?” YesHowever, I had learned to just not waste my time with other brands for jeans (no offense to some people that make some really nice things..) As I am always disappointed with something they shortcut more than I am intrigued by something they claim to be unique.
Short story Long: try one of the other denims (like neph said) honestly, they kinda all feel like different cuts in a way!
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