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IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    Echoplexi
    Joined: 15 Dec 2019

    @neph93:

    Look good cuffed to me. Really nice fit in general, relaxed without being sloppy. But it is personal preference. I suspect they’ll be too long to wear uncuffed, so the question is, will you be happy with them cuffed all the time?

    Yeah, that’s what I’m trying to decide. I do like how it looks cuffed just not sure if I want that all the time. It would definitely be too long to go back and forth.

    last edited by 16 Dec 2019, 15:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Jett129
      見習いボス
      Joined: 17 Aug 2011

      I agree that looks like a perfect length for those particular shoes,but they might also look really good uncuffed/with stacks with different footwear.

      last edited by 16 Dec 2019, 15:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        Echoplexi
        Joined: 15 Dec 2019

        Guess I’m just going to need to save up for a second pair, one cuffed and one hemmed straight  🙂

        last edited by 16 Dec 2019, 16:01 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          den1mhead
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 6 Oct 2014

          @Echoplexi I'd echo what @neph93 said regarding the fit.

          The cuffs look great to me ! I think you could also wear them uncuffed, with moderate stacking.

          last edited by 16 Dec 2019, 16:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Brock
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 8 Sept 2015

            Likewise!
            Great buy!
            Enjoy

            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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              neph93
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              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              As I say, I think they look great as they are. If you want the best of both worlds then taking an inch off may enable you to go both cuffed and uncuffed, but the eventual expense and inconvenience that creates may not be worth it when they look as good as they do.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
              last edited by 16 Dec 2019, 16:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                MassiveThighs
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 16 Aug 2019

                Id hem/taper until you can get a quarter break right above the tongues of your shoes.  This way u can single cuff with shoes and double cuff with ankle boots.

                last edited by 16 Dec 2019, 21:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                  mpukas
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 17 Jan 2014

                  @Anesthetist:

                  I’m telling you, I used to think that the 633 was my favorite but the rise and thigh of the 888 have me bowled over atm. I might need to get some 21oz 888 next.

                  I have to ask/address this statement, as I've seen it come up several times, both here and other places - where does/did the notion come from that the 888 has a larger thigh than the 634, and therefore the 633? I'm not going to dig for it too much, but in Giles' original announcement/description of the 888 was that is was based on the 634: "New jeans cut. Higher rise than IH-634 - particularly at the back. More taper from the knee than the 634." The first iteration had the same thigh measurements as the 634 in the same fabric. Shortly after the first release, some guys were asking/requesting a larger thigh for subsequent runs, but the response was that it was selling so well it wouldn't be changed. When I've compared the 634 to 888 measurements in the same fabric, the thigh is the same with an expected small amount of variation.

                  I get and acknowledge that each version in different fabrics will have slight variations in measurements. One of our fellas on SuFu had an OD 634 version that looked skin tight, like a 777.  He's a tall, lean, athletic guy with bigger thighs, but not a gigantic weight lifter build. They were too tight for him, and looking at the fit pics it was understandable. I think that was an extreme case of a 634 variat being unusually slim.

                  The 633 is SE's proprietary cut, and seems to be continually evolving with each release. Every variant that I have looked and compared seems to be a bit different from one to the next. But in general "taking their famed 634s and tapering the leg for a smaller leg opening and also lengthening the inseam by a few inches.", it still based on the 634.

                  Could it be that you're comparing a 633 variant that happened to have smaller thighs than a standard 634?

                  My point to all of this is that if the 888 is/was not intended to have bigger thighs than the 634, let's put that notion to rest once and for all.

                  edit: wow that was unintentionally long winded…  😶

                  last edited by 16 Dec 2019, 21:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    neph93
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                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    I thought he was referring to the taper of the thigh compared to the 633. I realise it is a jump but that is what differentiates the thigh in my mind.

                    You’re right though, the original plan was for the 888 to have a thigh around about the 634, never wider. One of the early models came in slimmer, the cut took off sales wise and the rest is (fairly recent) history.

                    Interestingly, the IH-888-RE had considerably larger thighs (and didn’t sell that well), I wonder if it was closer to the originally intention, co-incidentally or otherwise?

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
                    last edited by 16 Dec 2019, 22:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      mpukas
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 17 Jan 2014

                      When someone just says thigh, to me they're referring to the thigh measurement, either at the crotch seam, 2" down, whatever. And I've heard several guys refer to the 888 as having bigger thighs than the 634, so that's what I thought he meant.

                      last edited by 17 Dec 2019, 04:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        neph93
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                        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                        I’m sure your right. It’s and examples of us filling in gaps with the things that preoccupy us.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                        • Virginia Woolf
                        last edited by 17 Dec 2019, 05:59 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Kathrynnaomi
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 5 Aug 2014

                          New second hand jeans. Love this cut!

                          last edited by 6 Feb 2020, 11:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            cityofdelusion
                            Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                            Will there be a W28?  😶

                            last edited by 6 Feb 2020, 17:12 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Giles
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              There will be, but not many…

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                              last edited by 6 Feb 2020, 22:57 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                cityofdelusion
                                Joined: 1 Jun 2018

                                @Giles:

                                There will be, but not many…

                                Thank you @Giles! Looking forward to it!

                                last edited by 7 Feb 2020, 00:25 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  floho.hh
                                  Joined: 23 Sept 2017

                                  On that day, one year in that 888s. My favorite cut so far. Maybe not the most elegant shot, but you get the point!

                                  last edited by 1 Mar 2020, 13:16 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    pbdeng
                                    Joined: 6 Oct 2012

                                    Hey all!

                                    Here's a 13-mo update to my 888s. 2 washes, tapered them down to 7.25in at the hem, hemmed to 28.5in.



                                    last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 00:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      neph93
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                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      Thanks for posting @pbdeng . 21oz is no joke. Easy to wear, rewarding to fade.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
                                      last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 07:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        pbdeng
                                        Joined: 6 Oct 2012

                                        tell me about it @neph93, here are a pair of 7 year old 301s of the 21oz fabric

                                        The 21oz fabric is certainly something special

                                        last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 08:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          neph93
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                                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                          Nice! I have 6 year old 301’s in similar nick. It’s a fun ride.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                                          • Virginia Woolf
                                          last edited by 26 Mar 2020, 08:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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