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    • C
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      Thanks a ton @Filthy , tons of good info there. Bummer about the button and this is not the first time I’ve read of something like this happening with N&F jeans, the bright side being that they are said to be very cordial and efficient with making things right.

      The sizing issue is very surprising. According to the chart on their site, tag size 38 is supposed to come with humble 12,5” thighs pre-soak; this is clearly not the case here. 😶 Their ”how we measure” leads one to believe that they take the thigh measurement the IH way from the crotch seam… Could you check how does your pair actually measure on the thigh? If/when the button-issue gets fixed, it looks like you’ll have adequate leeway to soak/wash these, not having to go waterless as per the original plan.

      Thanks again, you’re the man.

      Edit: If you don't mind, it would actually be very informative if you checked all the measurements... If the thighs are not even in the ballpark, I wonder how accurate the rest are.

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      • gaseousclayG
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        @sabergirl:

        I would be bummed about the button, too. Nothing worse than dropping some cash on something and being disappointed in quality.

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        Agreed. Hopefully N&F will make it right

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        WTB:
        IHSH-129 size L (blue)
        IHSH-19

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        • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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          @Crit_Obs

          Waist 18.7
          FR 12.2
          BR 16.5
          Thighs *measured at inseam 13.1 measured 1 inch down 12.2
          Kn 10.75
          Hem 8.3
          Inseam is only a 32…

          It's clear they just measured the thighs across the front and didn't get the extra behind the seam because the denim is so thick.  😛

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          • C
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            @Filthy wait which tag size is this actually?

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            • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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              Oh sorry 38

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              • C
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                Yeah that's what I thought but holy beep are their measurements off by a mile and then some. :o Thank you kindly, dear sir, your contributions have once again proven invaluable for denim science and the general public alike. 😎

                I'm gonna have a bit of 1 on 1 with their CS and see if I can get them to actually measure a pair for me.

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                • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                  Yeah that's what I thought but holy beep are their measurements off by a mile and then some. :o Thank you kindly, dear sir, your contributions have once again proven invaluable for denim science and the general public alike. 😎

                  I'm gonna have a bit of 1 on 1 with their CS and see if I can get them to actually measure a pair for me.

                  good luck. Fyi I used this

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                  • ChrisC
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                    There's really no excuse for a 32" inseam, especially on a size 38.

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                    • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                      It seems like they cut them to be a 33 inseam but the denim was too heavy so the bottom seam is 3/4 of an inch wide. This would take up over 2.5 inches when the fold it over 3 times. The inseam is actually a perfect length for me.

                      If they don't offer to make is right I am going to ask my bank for the money back on these. Also I think I can repair the button with a 3 mm by 10 mm brass Chicago screw. I'll just drill the center of the button out so the post of the screw will fit through the button.

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                      • Matty123M
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                        I ordered one pair of N and F years ago. They were shite. Measurements were off. Poor quality IMO. Sorry mike. Maybe send those back.

                        Maybe so. Maybe not

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                        • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                          I wouldn't say these are shit quality at all. The denim is fucking awesome. Shit happens. I am kind of excited to wear then actually.

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                          • Matty123M
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                            I was speaking for the pair I bought. They weren’t the same as yours clearly.

                            Maybe so. Maybe not

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                            • gaseousclayG
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                              @Matty123:

                              I ordered one pair of N and F years ago. They were shite. Measurements were off. Poor quality IMO. Sorry mike. Maybe send those back.

                              I don't think their fit charts were ever really accurate, unless you bought them from a place like BOW who does their own measurements. N&F also operates on a much larger scale, thus, their fit charts will not reflect actual inventory in the same way that IH's fit charts do. Not defending N&F by any means but we've become spoiled with IH measurements and tend to view other denim companies through the IH lens imo.

                              WTB:
                              IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                              IHSH-19

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                              • neph93N
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                                @gaseousclay:

                                …we've become spoiled with IH measurements and tend to view other denim companies through the IH lens imo...

                                This is a thing. I’m going to call it “Iron Heart Goggles”. When I shop stuff online for my sons I have to take off my Iron Heart Goggles all the time or I go mental.

                                «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                • gaseousclayG
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                                  @neph93:

                                  This is a thing. I’m going to call it “Iron Heart Goggles”. When I shop stuff online for my sons I have to take off my Iron Heart Goggles all the time or I go mental.

                                  Yep. If I'm interested in something from another brand i'll send the shop an email asking them to measure whatever the Iron Heart way. The IH way of measuring should be universal  😃 It certainly takes a lot of the guess work out of buying clothes.

                                  WTB:
                                  IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                  IHSH-19

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                                    Anything new to report regarding their handling of the loose button debacle, @Filthy ?

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                                    • Filthy2123ozjunkieF
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                                      Anything new to report regarding their handling of the loose button debacle, @Filthy ?

                                      They have offered to repair it. But I am not in town to send them back.

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                                      • gaseousclayG
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                                        @Filthy:

                                        @Crit_Obs:

                                        Anything new to report regarding their handling of the loose button debacle, @Filthy ?

                                        They have offered to repair it. But I am not in town to send them back.

                                        Good luck and keep us informed. I’m genuinely curious if they can fix the button.

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                                        WTB:
                                        IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                        IHSH-19

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                                        • C
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                                          ^What this man said. I'm curious too.

                                          In related news, in my private correspondence with them they said they measured the tag size 32-33 pairs in order to find a pair with the biggest thigh, but somehow the results are exactly as in the chart on their site; contrast this with Filthy's experience (12.5" in the chart, 13.1" measured) and I don't know what to think. 😞 I want a pair sort of badly but logically thinking, I shouldn't take the risk considering their no returns policy and the fact that after shipping + tax, it could potentially turn out to be a $700+ pair of jeans I could look at but not wear.

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                                          • gaseousclayG
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                                            @Crit_Obs:

                                            In related news, in my private correspondence with them they said they measured the tag size 32-33 pairs in order to find a pair with the biggest thigh, but somehow the results are exactly as in the chart on their site; contrast this with Filthy's experience (12.5" in the chart, 13.1" measured) and I don't know what to think. 😞 [b]I want a pair sort of badly but logically thinking, I shouldn't take the risk considering their no returns policy and the fact that after shipping + tax, it could potentially turn out to be a $700+ pair of jeans I could look at but not wear.

                                            Yep, too risky and a very expensive mistake to make if sizing didn't pan out, or if a button popped off like @Filthy

                                            WTB:
                                            IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                            IHSH-19

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