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    sabergirl
    見習いボス
    Joined: 4 Oct 2013

    Those really do look roomier than the measurements would imply, @Filthy. I am curious about the thigh, but it’s purely intellectual as i don’t think I would go for a pair.

    They look really good on you. I would be bummed about the button, too. Nothing worse than dropping some cash on something and being disappointed in quality.

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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      Filthy2123ozjunkie
      見習いボスー
      Joined: 21 Jan 2013

      @sabergirl:

      Those really do look roomier than the measurements would imply, @Filthy. I am curious about the thigh, but it’s purely intellectual as i don’t think I would go for a pair.

      They look really good on you. I would be bummed about the button, too. Nothing worse than dropping some cash on something and being disappointed in quality.

      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

      Yeah I would do an even trade for a pair of regular 25oz XHS 888s.

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        BloodnThunder
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 20 May 2015

        Those things are crazy Filthy.  Are you able to move in them?  While I'm definitely not defending the uneven stitching or the broken button, as those would both be disappointments to me as well, it is a minor miracle they are able to turn that fabric into a pair of jeans to begin with.  I'm sure whoever is sewing the jeans is in a constant battle with the fabric.  The button to me is inexcusable though.  The manufacturer knows how thick the fabric is, I have to think they could order a more sturdy piece of hardware that would hold on.

        IG: Shadesofindig0

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          Filthy2123ozjunkie
          見習いボスー
          Joined: 21 Jan 2013

          They seem like they probably would get pretty comfortable after a while. But I had them on for maybe 2 minutes. They were easier to get on than my 888s the first time because the top block is roomy and the leg length is 3 inches shorter. They were stiff enough that the corrugated cardboard tag fell off as I put them on.

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            Crit_Obs
            Joined: 20 Oct 2017

            Thanks a ton @Filthy , tons of good info there. Bummer about the button and this is not the first time I’ve read of something like this happening with N&F jeans, the bright side being that they are said to be very cordial and efficient with making things right.

            The sizing issue is very surprising. According to the chart on their site, tag size 38 is supposed to come with humble 12,5” thighs pre-soak; this is clearly not the case here. 😶 Their ”how we measure” leads one to believe that they take the thigh measurement the IH way from the crotch seam… Could you check how does your pair actually measure on the thigh? If/when the button-issue gets fixed, it looks like you’ll have adequate leeway to soak/wash these, not having to go waterless as per the original plan.

            Thanks again, you’re the man.

            Edit: If you don't mind, it would actually be very informative if you checked all the measurements... If the thighs are not even in the ballpark, I wonder how accurate the rest are.

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              gaseousclay
              Joined: 4 Nov 2016

              @sabergirl:

              I would be bummed about the button, too. Nothing worse than dropping some cash on something and being disappointed in quality.

              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              Agreed. Hopefully N&F will make it right

              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              WTB:
              IHSH-129 size L (blue)
              IHSH-19

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                Filthy2123ozjunkie
                見習いボスー
                Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                @Crit_Obs

                Waist 18.7
                FR 12.2
                BR 16.5
                Thighs *measured at inseam 13.1 measured 1 inch down 12.2
                Kn 10.75
                Hem 8.3
                Inseam is only a 32…

                It's clear they just measured the thighs across the front and didn't get the extra behind the seam because the denim is so thick.  😛

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                  Crit_Obs
                  Joined: 20 Oct 2017

                  @Filthy wait which tag size is this actually?

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                    Filthy2123ozjunkie
                    見習いボスー
                    Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                    Oh sorry 38

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                      Crit_Obs
                      Joined: 20 Oct 2017

                      Yeah that's what I thought but holy beep are their measurements off by a mile and then some. :o Thank you kindly, dear sir, your contributions have once again proven invaluable for denim science and the general public alike. 😎

                      I'm gonna have a bit of 1 on 1 with their CS and see if I can get them to actually measure a pair for me.

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                        Filthy2123ozjunkie
                        見習いボスー
                        Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                        @Crit_Obs:

                        Yeah that's what I thought but holy beep are their measurements off by a mile and then some. :o Thank you kindly, dear sir, your contributions have once again proven invaluable for denim science and the general public alike. 😎

                        I'm gonna have a bit of 1 on 1 with their CS and see if I can get them to actually measure a pair for me.

                        good luck. Fyi I used this

                        last edited by 21 Apr 2019, 15:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Chris
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                          There's really no excuse for a 32" inseam, especially on a size 38.

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                            Filthy2123ozjunkie
                            見習いボスー
                            Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                            It seems like they cut them to be a 33 inseam but the denim was too heavy so the bottom seam is 3/4 of an inch wide. This would take up over 2.5 inches when the fold it over 3 times. The inseam is actually a perfect length for me.

                            If they don't offer to make is right I am going to ask my bank for the money back on these. Also I think I can repair the button with a 3 mm by 10 mm brass Chicago screw. I'll just drill the center of the button out so the post of the screw will fit through the button.

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                              Matty123
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 4 Apr 2017

                              I ordered one pair of N and F years ago. They were shite. Measurements were off. Poor quality IMO. Sorry mike. Maybe send those back.

                              Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                Filthy2123ozjunkie
                                見習いボスー
                                Joined: 21 Jan 2013

                                I wouldn't say these are shit quality at all. The denim is fucking awesome. Shit happens. I am kind of excited to wear then actually.

                                last edited by 21 Apr 2019, 19:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Matty123
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 4 Apr 2017

                                  I was speaking for the pair I bought. They weren’t the same as yours clearly.

                                  Maybe so. Maybe not

                                  last edited by 21 Apr 2019, 19:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    gaseousclay
                                    Joined: 4 Nov 2016

                                    @Matty123:

                                    I ordered one pair of N and F years ago. They were shite. Measurements were off. Poor quality IMO. Sorry mike. Maybe send those back.

                                    I don't think their fit charts were ever really accurate, unless you bought them from a place like BOW who does their own measurements. N&F also operates on a much larger scale, thus, their fit charts will not reflect actual inventory in the same way that IH's fit charts do. Not defending N&F by any means but we've become spoiled with IH measurements and tend to view other denim companies through the IH lens imo.

                                    WTB:
                                    IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                    IHSH-19

                                    last edited by 22 Apr 2019, 14:42 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      neph93
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      @gaseousclay:

                                      …we've become spoiled with IH measurements and tend to view other denim companies through the IH lens imo...

                                      This is a thing. I’m going to call it “Iron Heart Goggles”. When I shop stuff online for my sons I have to take off my Iron Heart Goggles all the time or I go mental.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
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                                        gaseousclay
                                        Joined: 4 Nov 2016

                                        @neph93:

                                        This is a thing. I’m going to call it “Iron Heart Goggles”. When I shop stuff online for my sons I have to take off my Iron Heart Goggles all the time or I go mental.

                                        Yep. If I'm interested in something from another brand i'll send the shop an email asking them to measure whatever the Iron Heart way. The IH way of measuring should be universal  😃 It certainly takes a lot of the guess work out of buying clothes.

                                        WTB:
                                        IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                        IHSH-19

                                        last edited by 22 Apr 2019, 16:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Crit_Obs
                                          Joined: 20 Oct 2017

                                          Anything new to report regarding their handling of the loose button debacle, @Filthy ?

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