Movies
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THE BALLAD OF BUSTER SCRUGGS - the two longest parts in this are the best'uns… The rest can be skipped... But those two parts are legit great Coen stuff...
Forgot about this one. Will keep an eye out for it
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Speaking of disturbing movies…
Climax - The latest by Gaspar Noe, I expected to be provocated and angried and grossed out but in the end I felt kind of indifferent about it all. Pretty interesting but this was far from the artistic masterpiece some describe it as. ::) Also, classifying this as ”horror” is a stretch and a half. I’d say 6/10 as an experience, probably 3/10 as a movie.
Irreversible is out and out one of my favourite films of all time. I saw it twice at the cinema on release. Anyone who believes Requiem for a dream to be emotionally disturbing, give Irriversible a watch. You'll come away thinking Requiem is a Disney film.
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I feel I'm more in the neph93 camp, as I can't really be doing with the genuinely nasty stuff anymore. When it comes to movies and TV, I am still willing to be emotionally moved, but mostly only if it's entertaining and enjoyable, too. For example, I watched The Homesman last year, and I've looked back on it since and wondered what in the heck that movie was ever even made for. It's just miserable. And that probably isn't even that miserable a movie! Got ten minutes into The Road before going, "Nope."
Oh, but… Speaking of enjoyable movies which are genuinely enjoyable. Got round to watching Sam Raimi's Drag Me To Hell the other day. Then watched it again. It is so much freakin' fun! Very much recommended if you like over-the-top horror silliness.
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Same here. My natural disposition trends toward depression. Willfully pushing my emotional state further that direction is just a bad idea. Anything dark and painful is a hard pass.
However, a movie I did see recently was Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse. That was absolutely phenomenal. Definitely, worth catching in the theater, too. There are a couple of scenes that are genuinely beautiful.
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The world is plenty dark and depraved enough without seeking out and wallowing in still more darkness and depravity.
Then again, I watch a lot of true crime…
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The world is plenty dark and depraved enough without seeking out and wallowing in still more darkness and depravity.
Exactly. As a first responder, I get my misery fix at work just fine.
Not that one needs a misery fix, per se, but y'know what I mean. I prefer upbeat stuff in my downtime.
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Are all Belgiumish bleak pricks, or is that just you?
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"Let's not call them anything, let's just ignore them!"
Clear winner.
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What is this a pudding convention?..
The harder, the darker, the more depressing, the more nauseating, the bleaker, the more miserable,… THE BETTER.
Fuckin Spiderman jesus moose tickling christ...
@Seul -you are the man. Well -for a dirty stinking rotten Belgian twat you're the man. Fuck all that superhero shit. And while I'm about it, fuck Lord of the Rings and all that crap too. Gimme City of Industry.
Nil by Mouth-Gary Oldman's first as director with great Ray Winstone. Bleak. -
What is this a pudding convention?..
The harder, the darker, the more depressing, the more nauseating, the bleaker, the more miserable,… THE BETTER.
Fuckin Spiderman jesus moose tickling christ...
@Seul -you are the man. Well -for a dirty stinking rotten Belgian twat you're the man. Fuck all that superhero shit. And while I'm about it, fuck Lord of the Rings and all that crap too. Gimme City of Industry.
Nil by Mouth-Gary Oldman's first as director with great Ray Winstone. Bleak.Hell yes @seul and @steelworker. I can appreciate most music and cinema, but misery makes the best art. I don't 'wallow in the darkness, I see the grim human reality every day at work. Life has light and shade. I like both. I don't like superhero movies though, being as it is that I'm not 12 anymore
(then again, I was watching bootleg video nasties and couldn't stand superman then either). -
Yep. I think that misery and joy are required to produce great art, because if you haven't experienced one, how would you know the other? So I can't make sense of statements like one or the other creates the best art, personally.
I'll use the blues as an example. Wouldn't exist without extreme privation, but it is every bit as grounded in the hope and joy of African tribal celebratory musical and gospel music traditions as it is suffering. And despite the name, not all blues is blue.
At any rate, you sad sacks can have your depressing bullshit, and you children can have your superheroes
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It is interesting that most debates become polarised….which camp do you stand in?
The only cinema I don't enjoy and support is where cynical marketing is used to brand and sell product. We keep our son away from that. If a product range and pop soundtrack are in the bag even before the reel has finished rolling it suggests that the franchise aren't THAT concerned about what they churn out.
The insesent need to trawl the bottom of barrels to find the next super hero franchise is just cynical. This is from someone that has a loft full of comic books (don't panic, they are in archive grade packaging!).
I just love cinema that challenges me, not just to be repulsed, but to laugh, think, reflect on my views and values. Hollywood rarely (but does sometimes with immense affect) does that for me (this is all subjective).
