Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?
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Oh ok, yeah I know what you mean now.
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Well since I'm on the idea of it now, I'm officially throwing in my vote for a shawl collar cardigan. I think an H designed shawl collar cardigan could have the potential to be pretty epic.
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I was on the fence about buying a Dehen shawl cardigan this year, but I am always worried that sweaters don't hang right on me if the fabric gets out of shape. But they are smooth looking.
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Yeah I get what you're saying. From what I understand RRL makes some of the best fitting shawl cardigans around. The possibilities are endless as far as fabric design as well. Smooth looking indeed.
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I mean a shirt and I think the collar type is called a band collar. I tried finding the cheesiest photo I could find… but I am thinking of the one with buttons that go halfway down.
Popover with banded collar!
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Shirt sounds more like Mr. Freedom and less like Iron Heart.
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Agree with this ^^^^
Those popovers and that style collar aren't my style. Although it could be argued that IH does venture into the "old west" vintage realm with wabash pants and western shirts to name a few examples.
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Agree with this ^^^^
Those popovers and that style collar aren't my style. Although it could be argued that IH does venture into the "old west" vintage realm with wabash pants and western shirts to name a few examples.
@Giles has stated a few times over the years that he's interested in the idea of a denim pullover shirt, it just hasn't come to fruition. But, either way I don't think it would have the Catholic priest clerical collar, lol
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@manufc10 you're right, there's no doubt that American workwear is a big part of IH and wabash is certainly from that time period. I think the difference is what they do with it.
Compare IH westerns to MF westerns for example. MF cuts are more flamboyant and stylised. The IH style and cut is much less vintage and retro.
The way IH use wabash is on designs that are more rooted in 20th century designs (painters pants, work pants, work shirts etc).
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I still think an IH take on a button down collar Oxford cloth shirt would be awesome. Nice beefy buttons, maybe an oxfird/chambray hybrid type fabric I've seen around more lately. Something you could potentially wear to the office but also beat to shit.
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Agree with this ^^^^
Those popovers and that style collar aren't my style.
Same. I coulda swore 3sixteen or some other US denim brand once put out these types of shirts and they quickly wound up in the following seasons sales bin. I just can't picture IH doing this type of thing
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Agree with this ^^^^
Those popovers and that style collar aren't my style.
Same. I coulda swore 3sixteen or some other US denim brand once put out these types of shirts and they quickly wound up in the following seasons sales bin. I just can't picture IH doing this type of thing
I thought the exact same thing but I was thinking it was Taylor Stitch for some reason. Could have been 3sixteen….but somebody did them.
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@manufc10 you're right, there's no doubt that American workwear is a big part of IH and wabash is certainly from that time period. I think the difference is what they do with it.
Compare IH westerns to MF westerns for example. MF cuts are more flamboyant and stylised. The IH style and cut is much less vintage and retro.
The way IH use wabash is on designs that are more rooted in 20th century designs (painters pants, work pants, work shirts etc).
Agreed, which is why other than the exception of one or two other brands IH westerns are the only westerns I will wear.
Being born and raised in the southwestern US I never thought I would wear a Western shirt. I guess it's just because you are exposed to them from day one as you have actual real life cowboys/ranchers/farmers out here that wear them so it was never associated with a more urban/streetwear/workwear style. So if someone wore one who wasn't a cowboy, rancher, or farmer then it just came across as very costume like.
To your point though these are more flamboyant and stylised "traditional" type western shirts I'm referring to and the way IH blends them into their style (specifically with the UHF's) it works and can definitely be pulled off with confidence in a more streetwear or workwear type style. It's also more common today to see others wear a western when I'm out and about in an urban environment and it's not uncommon to see skate brands or other more streetwear associated brands release western styled shirts.
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I never thought I would wear a Western shirt. I guess it's just because you are exposed to them from day one as you have actual real life cowboys/ranchers/farmers out here that wear them so it was never associated with a more urban/streetwear/workwear style. So if someone wore one who wasn't a cowboy, rancher, or farmer then it just came across as very costume like.
As a Texas resident, this is exactly why I'm not generally willing to wear a western shirt. It's not helped by the fact that I often wear cowboy boots, so I'm borderline costume as it is.
The exception (there's always an exception, right?) is the IHSH-62-BLK. I love the Wabash in black, and I think this may be my favorite IH shirt.
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That black Wabash is killer, totally agree.
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I'd say IH westerns aren't Old West, they're more like "Outlaw Country" and recall the styles of the 1970s more than the 1870s.
Hickory stripe and wabash (and for that matter, denim itself, chambray, etc) are all vintage textiles, but to echo what was said upthread, what Haraki-san does with those textiles doesn't recall the Old West or turn of the century workwear, at least not to me. I could be wrong, but I don't envision cowboys wearing snap shirts. I see them wearing cotton long-sleeved shirts, often with bloused sleeves, bibs, banded collars, etc–indeed, Mister Freedom style stuff. I'm sure a cowboy in Montana would have loved a UHF snap shirt, but I don't believe anything like that would have been available.
In my view, Iron Heart recalls items from the 1950s-1970s most of all, using textiles and patterns that often originate well before those eras.
The one exception to all that is the vests. They look much older to my eye. And then there are occasional one-off exceptions like chore coats.
$0.02
