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IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    neph93
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    @Wander:

    Could anyone of you attest this is the same fabric as 555-01 (just wanted to be sure if not for the letter ‘S’). If yes, I want to try it.

    It is the classic 21oz denim, just like the IH-555-01.

    “Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses”

    • Virginia Woolf
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      Paul9221
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      @neph93:

      @Paul9221 a pair of IH-888-OD are on their way to me now. My IH-888-UHR now measure 34.6” after shrinkage and wear and fit perfectly. The OD pair have a starting waist of 33.5”. If they’d existed I would have gone for something closer to 33” but allowing for 1” stretch should be enough. The 21oz stretches quite easily.

      Thanks, Reuben!  How about the thigh?  Did you size that so that the thigh fits out of the box?  Or did you size down a bit so that it stretches to you?

      Blanket-line all the things!!!

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        neph93
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        The 888 has a more relaxed thigh than many other IH cuts so I was more concerned about it not being too big. At 12.9” on a tagged 34 I expect no more than a third of an inch stretch. 13.2” on me is comfortably fitted.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

        • Virginia Woolf
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          Wander
          Joined: 8 Nov 2018

          @neph93:

          @Wander:

          Could anyone of you attest this is the same fabric as 555-01 (just wanted to be sure if not for the letter ‘S’). If yes, I want to try it.

          It is the classic 21oz denim, just like the IH-555-01.

          Thank you. Good man.

          Wander, you fool!

          last edited by 12 Jan 2019, 17:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            neph93
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            The IH lot number system is not without its peculiarities. If a model for some reason gets a lot number out of sync with the others then it sticks.

            The first three iterations of the 555 cut were called -01/-02/-03. Probably seemed a good idea at the time. The 01’s could have been IH-555S but that would have conflicted with the IH-666S which was made out of the same 18oz denim as the IH-555-02. So IH-555S-21 would have worked better perhaps. The 03’s should have been 555-SBG at any rate. It is what it is now [emoji23]

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

            • Virginia Woolf
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              Paul9221
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              @neph93:

              The 888 has a more relaxed thigh than many other IH cuts so I was more concerned about it not being too big. At 12.9” on a tagged 34 I expect no more than a third of an inch stretch. 13.2” on me is comfortably fitted.

              Excellent, I'll try to do the same, then.  Report back once you get them!

              Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                Paul9221
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                Heya guys, so I finally got my hands on a pair of 888s (Thanks AJ!) and I've got a possibly stupid-sounding question 🙂  How high are you guys wearing these?

                When I first put them on, I hiked them up as high as possible and got it so that the waist was just 1cm under my belly button, which was surprisingly comfortable!  But throughout the day, they kinda slid down to my about where my 634s sit, about 5.5cm south of my belly button.  I figure that so long as you cover up your naughty bits, you're not doing pants "wrong" but I'm just curious for sizing if I pick up another pair of maybe the 888s-OD.

                Blanket-line all the things!!!

                last edited by 23 Jan 2019, 06:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  spitfiredealer
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                  Joined: 8 Apr 2013

                  @Paul9221:

                  Heya guys, so I finally got my hands on a pair of 888s (Thanks AJ!) and I've got a possibly stupid-sounding question 🙂  How high are you guys wearing these?

                  When I first put them on, I hiked them up as high as possible and got it so that the waist was just 1cm under my belly button, which was surprisingly comfortable!  But throughout the day, they kinda slid down to my about where my 634s sit, about 5.5cm south of my belly button.  I figure that so long as you cover up your naughty bits, you're not doing pants "wrong" but I'm just curious for sizing if I pick up another pair of maybe the 888s-OD.

                  Mine start higher but generally slide down as the day goes on.

                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                  last edited by 23 Jan 2019, 10:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    mpukas
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                    Joined: 17 Jan 2014

                    Unless I cinch my belt a notch tighter, which becomes uncomfortable, my 888-NT's sit at my hip bones. All of my jeans ride at about my hip bones, regardless of how high the rise is.

                    IMO it comes down to the hip width. Higher rise cuts usually have a smaller waist than lower rise cuts, because the body's natural waist is smaller than the hips. Sizing down in this cut will make the hips a little snugger, and keep the jeans riding higher.

                    disclaimer: I'm using myself as a reference, and I'm a slim guy. Not everyone has the same body type, so the same size in this cut could fit very differently on two different guys with different body types.

                    last edited by 23 Jan 2019, 22:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Filthy2123ozjunkie
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                      @Paul9221 pretty much same. As heavy and as much as the denim stretches there's no avoiding them sitting low. Despite wearing mine for a year they still sit at my hips without a belt. I suggest a military web belt. It can be adjusted to whatever size you need and no need for being too tight. I use this one (when I wear a belt). I like this kind of buckle better instead of the slidy one.

                      https://www.amazon.com/Rothco-Plus-Belts-Black-Buckle/dp/B018MUALN0

                      This is one of the reasons I love Iron Heart overalls so much. They can be roomy and they always stay up. If I had a genie I would wish for some Ultra Heavy raw overalls. Or 25oz XHS overalls. I guess if I had a genie it would be 25 oz because it would probably take magic to make.

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                        Paul9221
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                        Thanks for the feedback guys!  It's not like they're uncomfortable at the hip or whatever the name of the section of the torso where my 634s sit, but I think it might slightly affect how much I hem 888 cuts going forward.

                        Blanket-line all the things!!!

                        last edited by 24 Jan 2019, 02:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          joephoto
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                          Paul… I have a few versions of the 888s. And each one first slightly different. I would say my 21oz are probably the more true version of the cut and my OD’s have more of a rise and my NT’s sit slightly lower. All fit perfectly and I don’t get much sag nor do I I need to hike them up with a belt. I think you really have to watch those measurements and know what works. I like the 888 as I have thicker legs and they fit perfect all the way down. Having said that, I just bought my first 555 because the measurements were similar to the NT and I knew they would work. It took me a bit to find my best cut.

                          @Paul9221:

                          Heya guys, so I finally got my hands on a pair of 888s (Thanks AJ!) and I've got a possibly stupid-sounding question 🙂  How high are you guys wearing these?

                          When I first put them on, I hiked them up as high as possible and got it so that the waist was just 1cm under my belly button, which was surprisingly comfortable!  But throughout the day, they kinda slid down to my about where my 634s sit, about 5.5cm south of my belly button.  I figure that so long as you cover up your naughty bits, you're not doing pants "wrong" but I'm just curious for sizing if I pick up another pair of maybe the 888s-OD.

                          Ohhhhhh that constitutional stitching!

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                            neph93
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                            @Paul9221:

                            Heya guys, so I finally got my hands on a pair of 888s (Thanks AJ!) and I've got a possibly stupid-sounding question 🙂  How high are you guys wearing these?

                            Just to echo what's been said, my two pairs, IH-888-UHR and IH-888S-OD (which are brand new) both sit relatively high. Both fit well at the waist but have a tendency to slide a little. It's normal. Body shapes are so variable though that this will be different from person to person.

                            I'm most comfortable with the fit of these when worn high so I belt mine despite the fit on the waist band being good. Other people will look better letting them sag a little. Personal taste plays a role too.

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                            • Virginia Woolf
                            last edited by 24 Jan 2019, 10:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              pbdeng
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                              Just to confirm some of the things I've seen, is it possible to have a 2 in stretch in the waist of these?  I tried on a 34 today which felt okay in the waist, but was a bit more full in the leg than I wanted. The 33s fit really nice along my leg, but the waist causes me to muffin top over.  My range of movement is still fine though.  I've uploaded a shot of me in the 34s and perhaps someone can tell me I'm being paranoid about them looking big.

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                                neph93
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                                @pbdeng:

                                Just to confirm some of the things I've seen, is it possible to have a 2 in stretch in the waist of these?

                                They look a little big in the leg and top block to me.

                                The 21oz will stretch readily. I’ve personally experienced around 1.5”. I’d say 2” is at the outer edges of what is possible but I could see it happening if needed.

                                By the sounds of things you don’t need two inches. If the W34 fits fine and there is around an inch between the sizes, you’ll get that easily from the W33.

                                “Some of those that work forces
                                Are the same that burn crosses”

                                • Virginia Woolf
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                                  spitfiredealer
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                                  Definitely too  big. Size down

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                                    pbdeng
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                                    Thanks, all.  Guess I'll be stretching and losing weight anyhow.

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                                      neph93
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                                      @pbdeng:

                                      Thanks, all.  Guess I'll be stretching…

                                      My pleasure. I think that after one day of wear you’ll be comfy af with the waistband of the w33.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
                                      last edited by 16 Feb 2019, 19:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • AppfaffA
                                        Appfaff
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                                        My rule of thumb - if you can button them, they fit [emoji23]

                                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                        last edited by 16 Feb 2019, 23:21 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Paul9221
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                                          Joined: 19 Apr 2011

                                          @Appfaff:

                                          My rule of thumb - if you can button them, they fit [emoji23]

                                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                          What this guy said.

                                          Blanket-line all the things!!!

                                          last edited by 16 Feb 2019, 23:31 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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