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    • gbougardG
      gbougard
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      @Simon:

      Are they as hard to fade as has been suggested?

      I dont wear them often enough to have faded them, IH pants keep me busy! They are almost like trophies for me… Crazy. Except Im wearing my 02's today. Lovely fabric.

      Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
      Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
      Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

      Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
      Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
      Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
      Ric

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        I have the 005 in size 33 now.  Waist is just a tiny bit loose (.5"), but the rest is a good fit, not too tight or loose in the thighs, just about right.

        I can't decide to get the AI-001 in size 32 and stretch out the waist…. or the AI-002 in a size 34 and shrink the waist....  but I think all the AI come fully shrunk like the 634SB. I love the slubbyness of the AI and the COLOR, the color is incredible in real life.  Take5 only had the AI-001 in 34 and it was too loose in the waist and thighs.  Really want to try the AI-002.

        Any plans on IR making a jean with great texture in a natural indigo?  Until discovering the color of natural indigo, I didn't know what I was missing!

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        • GilesG
          Giles
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          NI is possible, we already do the TW1220NI which is a rope dyed natural indigo straight cut selvedge.  Slubby, probably not, haraki does not like super slubby.  G

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          • SimonS
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            The 18oz denim on the 666 is fairly slubby, not PBJ slubby sure but still loads of character.

            thpcgr, I think the colour has more to do with the dying process and the cotton threads than the indigo, synthetic indigo & N.I. are chemically identical.

            Give me the luxuries of life and I will willingly do without the necessities - Frank Lloyd Wright

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              @thpcgr:

              I have the 005 in size 33 now.  Waist is just a tiny bit loose (.5"), but the rest is a good fit, not too tight or loose in the thighs, just about right.

              I can't decide to get the AI-001 in size 32 and stretch out the waist…. or the AI-002 in a size 34 and shrink the waist....  but I think all the AI come fully shrunk like the 634SB. I love the slubbyness of the AI and the COLOR, the color is incredible in real life.  Take5 only had the AI-001 in 34 and it was too loose in the waist and thighs.  Really want to try the AI-002.

              Any plans on IR making a jean with great texture in a natural indigo?  Until discovering the color of natural indigo, I didn't know what I was missing!

              Pretty sure that both AI models are one-wash, so it'll be hard to shrink them. It would probably be better to get the smaller size and stretch it out.

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              • jimmyJ
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                @Simon:

                thpcgr, I think the colour has more to do with the dying process and the cotton threads than the indigo, synthetic indigo & N.I. are chemically identical.

                there is unmeasurable impurities in natural and it's these small factors that makes the difference. it's like having natural egg and powder eggs, its just not the same.

                i have had the same batch cotton both rope dyed in Natural and Synthetic. [only 20 dips] IMO there is a world of difference in terms of richness and how it wears/fades or doesn't.

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                  close up of denim texture and fading at around 3+months of wear, on pbj xx013

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                  • gbougardG
                    gbougard
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                    @thpcgr:

                    I have the 005 in size 33 now.  Waist is just a tiny bit loose (.5"), but the rest is a good fit, not too tight or loose in the thighs, just about right.

                    I can't decide to get the AI-001 in size 32 and stretch out the waist…. or the AI-002 in a size 34 and shrink the waist....  but I think all the AI come fully shrunk like the 634SB. I love the slubbyness of the AI and the COLOR, the color is incredible in real life.  Take5 only had the AI-001 in 34 and it was too loose in the waist and thighs.  Really want to try the AI-002.

                    Any plans on IR making a jean with great texture in a natural indigo?  Until discovering the color of natural indigo, I didn't know what I was missing!

                    Based on my personal experience, I'd stay away from the 01 and go for the 02 instead, the cut seems a bit more tapered on the 02.

                    Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                    Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                    Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                    Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                    Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                    Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                    Ric

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                    • gbougardG
                      gbougard
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                      PBJ's 24 oz models are pushed back a month to end of March, goddamit…

                      Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                      Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                      Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                      Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                      Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                      Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                      Ric

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                        thpcgr
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                        @gbougard:

                        PBJ's 24 oz models are pushed back a month to end of March, goddamit…

                        Darn, my next HK trip is scheduled for the middle of March and was really hoping to try these on at Take5.
                        No restock of the AI until July too, might not be able to visit HK the 2nd half of this year, sad.

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                        • gbougardG
                          gbougard
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                          Update: Pure Blue Japan informed me the 07 24oz would be shipping end of March and the 05 24oz model by end of April.

                          Since they havent been too reliable in previous date indications and in light of the fucked up situation in Japan these days, I would take these dates cautiously.

                          Sly Dunbar bigs up IH on YT
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t2OM738mKY
                          Sly & Robbie A Run Tings
                          Gregory Isaacs Liveth 4 I-ver

                          Renault: What in heaven’s name brought you to Casablanca?
                          Rick: My health. I came to Casablanca for the waters.
                          Renault: The waters? What waters? We’re in the desert.
                          Ric

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                          • FOXYF
                            FOXY
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                            AI-002 raw - first soak: cold soak/warm soak or hot soak - what's your recommendation?

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                            • Finn666F
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                              ^I think you can answer this question yourself 🙂

                              If the presoak fit is a bit tight, then cold soak and so on…

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                              • SeulS
                                Seul
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                                "It's RAAAWWW!.. You DONKEY!.."

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                                • Finn666F
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                                  ^doesnt matter imo!

                                  if the presoak fit on a raw pair is a bit on the tighter side and you want to shrink it just a bit, then cold soak…

                                  the looser the cut is presoak, the hotter the water should be, when you soak! Donkey 😉

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                                  • SeulS
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                                    I just wanted to post that - no connection to your earlier post there Finn…

                                    And yeah: follow Finn's advice, Kaj...

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                                    • Finn666F
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                                      okay, it's all good my man ;)…

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                                      • FOXYF
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                                        I got some "interesting" advice earlier today: cold soak in order to not hurt the indigo.

                                        unless we are talking "boiling" I would guess the difference between cold and warm might only have an impact on the cotton shrinkage…

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          Meh - cold soak with vinegar… That supposedly prevents the indigo from bleeding too much... Who knows... Just soak at 40 C° for 45 minutes unless you can't fit in them right now... Then cold soak and put them on whilst they're damp to stretch 'm a bit...

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                                          • FOXYF
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                                            ^ yeah - what the heck - will do a simple warm soak and break-in while damp.

                                            (what's the point in pampering a pair of jeans if you are going to wear them?)

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