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    • Stuart.TS
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      • Stuart.TS
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        @manufc10 I get it. Lots of us have strong opinions here. I love that. 😊

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          ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ ♪  \m/

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          • AetasA
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            Here we go!

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            • neph93N
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              ^ I’m so looking forward to getting on to that this evening.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

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              • manufc10M
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                @Stuart.T:

                I'm not afroamerican or Latino, not from Queensbridge projects or Watts. I have carried knives, sold drugs, had guns aimed at me, had friends go to prison. The catalysts to these aren't exclusive to black 80s Compton. Asher D and daddy Freddy, overlord X, Hijack, London posse…toxteth and Tottenham riot's. It's universal, not local.

                Music can join or decide. If the industry is left to draw that line then we continue to head in this direction. If the artists regain control, hope!

                I'm not sure what the fact that you've sold drugs, carried knives, etc is supposed to prove.  I've experienced all of what you've mentioned and then some multiple times over and buried way too many friends who were victim to homicide.  I also have many friends and family members who have been incarcerated….but so what.

                There were absolutely specifics to what was going on in LA at the time (LAPD tactics to name one), and other US cities as well (Sheriff Joe Arpaios tactics to name one) which ultimately culminated in the LA riots and what was reflected in the music coming out at the time.  You are/were 4 thousand plus miles away from any inner city in America with predominantly Hispanic and black populations with rampant gang activity, I was/ am not.  I don't know what circumstances are or were where you grew up so I can't speak on them as if I do, and I wont.

                Your initial post to me came across as if you were trying to educate me on what experiences were being reflected in American hip hop at the time, which I'm well aware of, yet you're half way across the world from it.  If I misinterpreted your tone then thats my bad.  I'm sure you've had your experiences and of course there's issues and shit going down in cities all over the world.  I dont speak on that like I know or try to educate others on it.  I know shit definitley gets lost in translation via text so again, I may have misinterpreted your tone.

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                • Stuart.TS
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                  @manufc10 I seem to have turned what started as a music thread into a random rant thread! Oops.

                  There was always and still is a huge divide in the hip hop community (Yep, global, the Zulu Nation is everywhere!) About the labels gangster rap or reality rap. It might seem like semantics, but the labels have such a huge influence on mainstream societies perception of those groups/demographics. That was my only point, and you are so right, email, text, posting, they can lose so much context in translation.

                  Music can be so powerful. We all see that. I'd just love artists to take control back from the industry, for there to be more independent labels like mellow music group and rhymesayers with positive artists for kids to hear. More Jean Gray and less Stefflon Don.  More Oddisee and less Lil….whoever.

                  As citizens our only real remaining democratic power left is how we choose to spend our money and how that affects decisions that the economy makes.

                  Anywho @manufc10 things seemed to work out for us over the years…I mean, we are having this chat across the ocean on a high-end denim brand website! I hope we are both doing ok  😉

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                  • manufc10M
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                    @Stuart.T:

                    @manufc10 I seem to have turned what started as a music thread into a random rant thread! Oops.

                    There was always and still is a huge divide in the hip hop community (Yep, global, the Zulu Nation is everywhere!) About the labels gangster rap or reality rap. It might seem like semantics, but the labels have such a huge influence on mainstream societies perception of those groups/demographics. That was my only point, and you are so right, email, text, posting, they can lose so much context in translation.

                    Music can be so powerful. We all see that. I'd just love artists to take control back from the industry, for there to be more independent labels like mellow music group and rhymesayers with positive artists for kids to hear. More Jean Gray and less Stefflon Don.  More Oddisee and less Lil….whoever.

                    As citizens our only real remaining democratic power left is how we choose to spend our money and how that affects decisions that the economy makes.

                    Anywho @manufc10 things seemed to work out for us over the years…I mean, we are having this chat across the ocean on a high-end denim brand website! I hope we are both doing ok  😉

                    Now that I can agree with.  All of it.

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                    • AetasA
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                      When I was young, I heard this guys on Radio BBC .

                      Mindopening and influential  …

                      David Rodigan

                      And

                      John Peel

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                        Got to meet The Jam in October 1980,and went to see them at a concert in a gymnasium in Manchester. Great guys,great band.

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                        • manufc10M
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                          MGK diss aside, Eminem is back in full force on his new album. This dude just keeps getting better and better.  Video for Lucky You w/ Joyner Lucas just dropped and they are clearly taking shots at the state of hip hop today as is the theme for the whole album pretty much.  You can't deny Eminems lyrical skill.  His bars on this album are ridiculous, double entendres everywhere and ridiculous flows.

                          I like the little bit of shit talking humor they throw in this video too.

                          Edit:  and Joyner Lucas is no slouch on the microphone either.

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                            ^ This Eminem - Lucky You ft. Joyner Lucas is awesome ^

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                              Mike Allen Capital Radio on a Saturday night, finger on the pause button…

                              'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                  'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                    You gotta post "Cybertron - Clear" if you're posting the old school heavy weights [emoji95][emoji106]

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                                    • bryaneidins70B
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                                      Absolutely…

                                      'Fail we may…Sail we must'

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                                        WTB:
                                        IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                        IHSH-19

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                                        • gaseousclayG
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                                          WTB:
                                          IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                          IHSH-19

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                                          • Stuart.TS
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                                            @bryaneidins70  I had a whole case of C90 cassettes pause button mixed with Mike Allen 'something fresh for the weekend' capital rap show. I also had VHS tapes of N sign radio, westwood's tv show late Friday nights on itv.  I've still got some of those. I used to keep an eye out for for this week's import releases that he had in the studio on the back shelf then head down to Brickhouse Records in Grays, Essex, on Saturday morning with my paper round money. This was always a track I loved

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