Unpopular opinions
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despite the worlds current state with hypebeasts and all that stuff, Supreme has a super rich history and is a groundbreaking brand.
Folks of a certain age respect Supreme for different reasons then folks born in the 90s and 00. Oh it also might depend on where you lived during formative years with Supreme and a few other older "street wear" brands because so much of it was grass roots and connected with customers in a different kind of way
in another 20 or so years folks will be talking about Iron Heart the same way as far as the way the brand connected with customers in an entirely different way then was the norm and dope product.
Huge agreement with all this.
Way back in the distant past I skated a lot and always identified with that culture. A lot of the designs and imagery that Supreme use have a very nostalgic value for me. Before denim I wore Supreme and other streetwear brands, and it was on a trip to Tokyo in 2004 is where I first got into denim.
Tommy started getting into Supreme and I started looking for vintage pieces for him. I picked up a couple myself from old contacts for him and for me too.
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Nah [emoji23]
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Fakes
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@Megatron1505 do you think you can get a white supreme hoodie at a not so ridiculous price?
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I’m out in LA in a couple of weeks dude, I can try Mag Park, Round 2 and Riff to see what they have if you like? If you’re talking Box Logo it’s going to be expensive.
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damn. i just had a look.
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You’re looking at $900 to $2000 depending on the year and condition ???
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it depends on whether you can get supreme at retail price or resell. the markups on resell is ridiculous. on the other hand, visvim, hiroki nakamura shares his ancient techniques such as mud dye, natural dye or aizome dye and what not, on how he constructs his clothes. so i absolutely understand his methods and techniques going into his construction. whether you buy that "belief" or not, visvim is what i feel of a much higher quality than supreme..
My comment wasn´t that serious, of course VisVim Pieces are way more intersting then a Box Logo Tee but the Pricing is way off nonethless, I once tried on a VisVim Shirt, white front western Style and the back was half white and the other half the US Flag, very very cool design, made in japan but absolute mediocre craftsmanship wise, like Neighborhood or WTAPS but for around 750 Euro not really a catch.
Supreme I think as much as they get reduced to the Box Logo Instagram Fuckboy Hypebeast shite is a really cool Brand. I am an retired Skater
and I really dig the of the Hype Pieces like the Flashy Workwear Style Jackets, Their Boards and special Collabos like the Sigg Boxes or the Independet Axels. -
My comment wasn´t that serious, of course VisVim Pieces are way more intersting then a Box Logo Tee but the Pricing is way off nonethless, I once tried on a VisVim Shirt, white front western Style and the back was half white and the other half the US Flag, very very cool design, made in japan but absolute mediocre craftsmanship wise, like Neighborhood or WTAPS but for around 750 Euro not really a catch.
Supreme I think as much as they get reduced to the Box Logo Instagram Fuckboy Hypebeast shite is a really cool Brand. I am an retired Skater
and I really dig the of the Hype Pieces like the Flashy Workwear Style Jackets, Their Boards and special Collabos like the Sigg Boxes or the Independet Axels.unfortunately, i'm not a skater back in my teenage years, so i'll probably never understand the impact of supreme as a cult brand. i only knew minor brands like vans, etnies or element but not the history behind it.
actually, i also do agree with you regarding visvim prices in the recent years. for example, i've seen their tees go for about 300usd or so and the material on them is as thin as paper. i've look through their collection the past couple of years and i feel like the brand is stagnating at the moment..
You’re looking at $900 to $2000 depending on the year and condition ???
wow. i did not expect it to be that much! i think i'll stick with the upcoming UHFs
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Can someone explain why supreme is so pricey. Is it the construction quality? Style? I mean I’ve seen a lot of it and it doesn’t strike me as unique just by sight. Someone educate me please.
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Can someone explain why supreme is so pricey. Is it the construction quality? Style? I mean I’ve seen a lot of it and it doesn’t strike me as unique just by sight. Someone educate me please.
It is not, if you buy their Stuff from them the Prices are pretty Normal but the Hype makes Items that are sold out on Spot Collectiables with Prices like disscused above. That isn´t a Supreme only Thing, the Off-White Nikes sell for Around 200ish Dollar depending on the Base Model and basicly right after they are sold out on the Nike Page the are Online for 900-1000 Dollars and more, same with the ugly Yeezys
Speaking of Hypebeast, Number 1 of the Hypebeast Magazin Anno 2012, shipped directly from their Hong Kong Office at the
Time
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Amazingballs marketing…
Exactly this.
I have a book called “Supremacist” which is a fiction novel doubling as an in depth study into how Supreme market and why it is so popular/ hard to get/ pricey at resale.
On a side note, I was looking at how much some of my old Supreme gear goes for which I sold….and I could cry. It seems that I sold about $10’000 worth of stuff for a few hundred pounds. In better news, the only box logo tee I kept is now worth about $2000!! So that’s being shrink wrapped and put away for a rainy day.
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Man I'd sell that, there's no guarantee it will retain or exceed that value.
Hype sucks. I prefer for intrinsic value such as that driven by quality, labor, materials, construction, ethical treatment of workers in the supply chain, and design to drive the cost of goods. I can justify IH based on factors like this. Though it's getting harder to keep doing so for Acronym as the hype flies off the rails, I'd say the same of them. I don't know Supreme, but on the face of things I haven't seen anything I could justify the cost with, and I have seen extraordinarily douchy people wearing it, so that's gonna be a no from me dawg [emoji23]
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I have seen extraordinarily douchy people wearing it…
Interesting point. The two oldest boys in my house are very aware of Supreme as it’s teen-tastic in Norway. When @Megatron1505 had a Tommy size jacket for sale on IG recently I offered to buy it for them, thinking they’d be ecstatic. They both declined based on the fact that while they acknowledge it’s cool factor and the peer approval it would have gained them, the only people who actually wore Supreme at their school were all dickheads [emoji23]
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That’s why we wear it
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To close out my view on Supreme, I know it’s hyped to fuck, I know it’s worn by dickheads, I know that much (not all) of what they produce lacks the tangible quality of the Japanese brands, none of this is news to me.
However, if you’re a certain age and identify with parts of the sub culture that brand has represented for the last 24 years then you know that there was a time when this wasn’t the case. There was a time when Supreme was the underground brand that you discussed on forums and got an acknowledging nod from those in the know.
Unlike Iron Heart, Supreme is not a brand which brings people together…. if anything it drives them apart, but in a strange way that is the appeal.
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Regarding the Skateboarding Theme, I skated from 10/11 till 15 I think so 2002 till 2007 but I wasn´t really aware on when it came to the Story of Brands and the Orgins, the Internet wasn´t that big of a thing and the Magazines where focused on the People instead on the Brands, so no Hype really back then, at least here, every Brand basiclly was in the same Price Range in the local Skate Shops.
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Regarding the Skateboarding Theme, I skated from 10/11 till 15 I think so 2002 till 2007 but I wasn´t really aware on when it came to the Story of Brands and the Orgins, the Internet wasn´t that big of a thing and the Magazines where focused on the People instead on the Brands, so no Hype really back then, at least here, every Brand basiclly was in the same Price Range in the local Skate Shops.
I was a skater 1993-1996 in the UK and have never heard of Supreme. We liked Element, Blind, Alien Workshop, ES, Etnies, Emerica, World industries etc. And they were viewed as equal more or less and no brand loyalty, picked whatever we liked the look of lol
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If you’re a certain age and identify with parts of the sub culture that brand has represented for the last 24 years then you know that there was a time when this wasn’t the case. There was a time when Supreme was the underground brand that you discussed on forums and got an acknowledging nod from those in the know
Your basically talking about nostalgia which ironically is massive for me when it comes to Iron Heart (details at another time). But I feel the same way as you about Adidas kicks from my time i Liverpool. Even with the Adidas Originals label becoming diluted by Yeezy’s and awful updated versions of classics, I still go weak at the knees for a nice pair of Samba or Gazelle. I know it isn’t in the same league as Supreme, but it’s something about a time, place and environment that the brand intersects with, that resonates.
