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    cander49
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 8 Apr 2015

    Finally unboxed my Nike Vaporfly 4% and had the best race of my life thus far. The hype is real.

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      neversummer
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 21 Mar 2017

      @cander49 the hype may be real, but you are strong/fast to start with! I read the NYT article about them, and there is some science to show they can help people to move faster. Do you think you’ll continue to use them for races? At the price and how long the effect lasts for, I imagine they are out of reach for training.

      I wanted to post the tracking link for my race if anyone is interested. It starts Friday the 27th at 8am MST. Real name: Andrew Rose.
      http://trackleaders.com/ouray100-18f.php

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        cander49
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 8 Apr 2015

        @neversummer:

        @cander49 the hype may be real, but you are strong/fast to start with! I read the NYT article about them, and there is some science to show they can help people to move faster. Do you think you’ll continue to use them for races? At the price and how long the effect lasts for, I imagine they are out of reach for training.

        I wanted to post the tracking link for my race if anyone is interested. It starts Friday the 27th at 8am MST. Real name: Andrew Rose.
        http://trackleaders.com/ouray100-18f.php

        I really like them, so I'll keep racing in them. I'm thinking I'll pick up 2 pairs of the Pegasus Turbo (same foam underneath a Pegasus) for workouts when they're more generally out next week. I'm already cycling a lot of models right now, so the Turbos should last awhile.

        NYT article was interesting. I'm surprised that they didn't really point out that the results don't actually mean that the shoes lead to 4% faster running, as the users of Vaporflys are obviously self selecting. More serious runners are more likely to buy them and also run faster, but other controlled experiments should be done to see what the average effect actually is. For me, the shoes definitely seem to help, so I'll keep using them.

        Will be fun to track your race!

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          Maynard Friedman
          Joined: 3 Jan 2013

          Interesting to hear feedback directly from a (good) runner about the Vaporfly 4% effect. Here are a few articles I read recently, c/o Mario Fraoli’s excellent weekly ‘morning shakeout’ email (if you’re not aware of this, I strongly suggest you subscribe):

          NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/18/upshot/nike-vaporfly-shoe-strava.html
          Runner’s World: https://www.runnersworld.com/gear/a22487985/nike-vaporfly-4-percent-shoes-make-you-faster/
          The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jul/22/nike-shoes-vaporfly-sport

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            neversummer
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            Joined: 21 Mar 2017

            https://ouray100-2018.maprogress.com/
            Updated tracking link, previous one will not work. Interested to talk about those shoes more, but need to get to bed!

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              mclaincausey
              見習いボス
              Joined: 12 Apr 2013

              @neversummer:

              https://ouray100-2018.maprogress.com/
              Updated tracking link, previous one will not work. Interested to talk about those shoes more, but need to get to bed!

              You live in CO or visiting?

              Kudos on the running!

              Think it, be it.

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                neversummer
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 21 Mar 2017

                @mclaincausey I live in Colorado, but front range, near Boulder.
                Just picked up trackers, used at the Hardrock last week. This has to be good juju!

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                  mclaincausey
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                  @neversummer:

                  @mclaincausey I live in Colorado, but front range, near Boulder.

                  Nice! Denver here. Cheers!

                  Think it, be it.

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                    nurunuru
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                    Joined: 16 May 2018

                    Cool!  A buddy of mine paced at the Hardrock last year (or maybe the year before, I forget).  His pictures really made me want to go do some hiking in the area.  Animas Forks in particular looked absolutely enchanting.

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                      cander49
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                      Joined: 8 Apr 2015

                      Nice job, @neversummer!

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                        neversummer
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 21 Mar 2017

                        @cander49 thank you! Sorry to anyone who may have tried to follow as the trackers weren’t working well all around. I’ll post a write up in a few days. Finished 102.1 miles with 42,000 feet of gain in 45:56, faster than my most realistic pace by two hours plus. Truly an amazing experience, already thinking about going back next year. This course shares a few sections with Hardrock, and yes, incredible scenery.

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                          neversummer
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                          Joined: 21 Mar 2017

                          Here is my trip report on the race, if of interest to anyone:
                          http://www.hikingrmnp.org/2018/08/2018-ouray-100.html?m=1
                          @mclaincausey if you’re looking for an occasional partner, let me know. I am not very fast overall. Quicker in mountainous terrain.
                          Back to the vaporflys, now that I am thinking clearly! If there is a more scientific study done that definitively proves an advantage to them, would they be banned? If for nothing more than not everyone will have access due to sponsorships or affiliations. Maybe like the Speedo LZR?
                          I won’t dispute the mental effect of something, which is to say if you think something will make you faster/recover more quickly/not get as sore in the first place, then it will. I’ve worn compression leggings for years because I think they help though there seems to be little science to say that they actually do. But I THINK they do.

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                            EastWest
                            Joined: 3 May 2012

                            I did my first proper run (7 miles, will seem puny to most) in years up and down rocky paths around Cheddar Gorge in the South West (UK) this Saturday with my with brother and his wife, who are mental, and do ultra marathons and Iron Man’s etc.. kept up for 4 miles and the rest was visually beautiful but internally painful.

                            I’m still in recovery but motivated to get proper fit again…..whilst still not treating my bod as the finest temple.

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                              den1mhead
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 6 Oct 2014

                              ^ [emoji106] Good effort particularly in this heat and over the difficult terrain

                              Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk

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                                EastWest
                                Joined: 3 May 2012

                                Cheers Barcley, have my brother a laugh.

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                                  cander49
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                                  Joined: 8 Apr 2015

                                  I've gotten in some insane trail runs this week. 🙂 Hip was screwy momentarily, but I got it back under control just in time to host a running friend for some really incredible mountain runs for most of a week.

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                                    den1mhead
                                    Raw and Unwashed
                                    Joined: 6 Oct 2014

                                    ^ You have some amazing trails to run on buddy. I particularly love the look of the ridge line run [emoji106]

                                    Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk

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                                      cander49
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 8 Apr 2015

                                      Thanks. Two more from today!

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                                        neversummer
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 21 Mar 2017

                                        @cander49 Beautiful! Glad your hip is feeling better, hope it continues.

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                                          cander49
                                          Raw and Unwashed
                                          Joined: 8 Apr 2015

                                          Thanks! Just doing my PT exercises now. Fingers crossed!

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