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    • Stuart.TS
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      @Chris:

      I know a lot of parents with special needs kids.  Some seem perfectly typical until you've been around them for a while, and then you learn that they aren't.  So if it comes to letting a kid watch an iPad during dinner or biting himself until he bleeds, then an iPad seems ok.

      I'm not going to assume I know what's best for someone else's child.

      @Chris I'm a social worker and work with people who live with autism. I completely get your point, and of course you are right. I'm talking laziness not necessity. There is research that suggests ignoring children and letting them use technology instead of engaging has an affect emotionally on confidence and interpersonal skills.

      As with everything in life, context is essential.

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      • Stuart.TS
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        @joesaintjohn and @untucked lets go out for dinner…I think we'd get on just fine, as would our kids. We can send them off to bother other diners at their tables. There's a very fine line between what the public see as 'cute' and "annoying' child behaviour.

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        • steelworkerS
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          I'm the problem when we dine out.  😶

          Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
          Well, I have others.

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          • UnTuckedU
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            @Stuart.T:

            There's a very fine line between what the public see as 'cute' and "annoying' child behaviour.

            Very true.

            At least once a month, I find myself leaving a public place because of annoying kids (Stores, restaurants, etc)… I 've also never returned to friends' homes and never invited them to mine again because of annoying kids.

            And to think, I used to want to be a teacher, lmao!

            **I'm also just an grinch, and am easily annoyed by people in general... But don't worry, if you'll be at Fish & Chips, I promise we'll get along. A few beers turns me right into an antisocial butterfly, lol

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            • Matty123M
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              @steelworker:

              I'm the problem when we dine out.  😶

              Hahaha

              Maybe so. Maybe not

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              • gaseousclayG
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                @Chris:

                I know a lot of parents with special needs kids.  Some seem perfectly typical until you've been around them for a while, and then you learn that they aren't.  So if it comes to letting a kid watch an iPad during dinner or biting himself until he bleeds, then an iPad seems ok.

                I'm not going to assume I know what's best for someone else's child.

                This x10

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                • madmondayM
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                  zippers are so much better than buttonfly for function sake, but buttonfly looks so much cooler than zippers when the denim/chinos get seasoned and ages

                  I hate undoing buttonfly to go take a piss and then doing it back up

                  think I've lost at lest 10 minutes of my life over the course of my journey

                  head high, middle finger higher

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                  • M
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                    Pencils and paper don’t take up much more room than iPads, that’s our solution and our kids usually seem happy with it. Even if you forget them, restaurants are often happy to supply. Talking to your kids is a good option too!

                    We’re not anti-screen but consider them as a last resort rather than a first.

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                    • madmondayM
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                      there is never a one size fits all solution to anything.  it's super easy to sit on the sideline and say I would/wouldn't do this or that until you are actually living in that person's shoes.

                      doesn't mean you shouldn't have your opinion on what you think you would/wouldn't do in a situation but when it boils down to it you never know until you are actually starved for time with your partner/spouse but can't get a babysitter at short notice and if you all look at the kitchen walls one more day while trying to shovel a meal down your throats after a long day at a thankless job could lead to the quicker end of your already doomed relationships with your family

                      but this is un-pop ops so you know

                      head high, middle finger higher

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                      • gaseousclayG
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                        @madmonday:

                        there is never a one size fits all solution to anything.  it's super easy to sit on the sideline and say I would/wouldn't do this or that until you are actually living in that person's shoes.

                        doesn't mean you shouldn't have your opinion on what you think you would/wouldn't do in a situation but when it boils down to it you never know until you are actually starved for time with your partner/spouse but can't get a babysitter at short notice and if you all look at the kitchen walls one more day while trying to shovel a meal down your throats after a long day at a thankless job could lead to the quicker end of your already doomed relationships with your family

                        but this is un-pop ops so you know

                        Exactly. When I met with my brother and his family last week I was trying to play catch up because I hadn't seen them in 11 yrs. My son got along well with his cousin (who has Autism) and they played some game on his phone. I think it's important to set forth boundaries for your children and follow through. It's a work in progress. I mentioned before that I once witnessed a mom screaming obscenities at her 5 yo boy at a Target. He didn't appear to be doing anything wrong but it was her use of language that really bothered me. Had she physically hit the boy I might've said something, otherwise, it's not my place to insert myself into someone else's business.

                        My boy is very social and thrives on playing with others. He's outgoing, friendly and has many friends, but sometimes he might do something inappropriate, in which case I step in and make sure he doesn't repeat certain behaviors. It's tough.

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                        • UnTuckedU
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                          @madmonday:

                          there is never a one size fits all solution to anything.  it's super easy to sit on the sideline and say I would/wouldn't do this or that until you are actually living in that person's shoes.

                          doesn't mean you shouldn't have your opinion on what you think you would/wouldn't do in a situation but when it boils down to it you never know until you are actually starved for time with your partner/spouse but can't get a babysitter at short notice and if you all look at the kitchen walls one more day while trying to shovel a meal down your throats after a long day at a thankless job could lead to the quicker end of your already doomed relationships with your family

                          but this is un-pop ops so you know

                          Definitely, but compassion and understanding goes both ways though…

                          As a young parent, that's why I would just remove our family from the situation and leave. It just made more sense for us to be "inconvenienced", instead of inconveniencing the entire restaurant or store, because the only thing worse than a crying baby or annoying kid is someone else's crying baby or annoying kid, lol

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                          • gaseousclayG
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                            @UnTucked:

                            As a young parent, that's why I would just remove our family from the situation and leave. It just made more sense for us to be "inconvenienced", instead of inconveniencing the entire restaurant or store, because the only thing worse than a crying baby or annoying kid is someone else's crying baby or annoying kid, lol

                            Crying babies used to bother me before I was a parent. After my son was born my views completely changed and now it doesn't bother me at all. Likewise with annoying kids. We all have our own personal tolerances to those things

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                            • UnTuckedU
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                              I have strong aversions to sounds…

                              Did I also mention that I'll leave a restaurant if people nearby are talking too loud or have bad table manners (Gulping, chomping, smacking...)? But, that's an entirely different subject, and is subjective as well, as nearly all things in life are.

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                              • gaseousclayG
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                                @UnTucked:

                                I have strong aversions to sounds…

                                Did I also mention that I'll leave a restaurant if people nearby are talking too loud or have bad table manners (Gulping, chomping, smacking...)? But, that's an entirely different subject, and is subjective as well, as nearly all things in life are.

                                Haha. I'm surprised you lasted as long as you did in Japan – all that slurping  😃 But I hear you, the loud smacking/chomping of food and eating with your mouth open is mildly annoying to me.

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                                • UnTuckedU
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                                  @gaseousclay:

                                  @UnTucked:

                                  I have strong aversions to sounds…

                                  Did I also mention that I'll leave a restaurant if people nearby are talking too loud or have bad table manners (Gulping, chomping, smacking...)? But, that's an entirely different subject, and is subjective as well, as nearly all things in life are.

                                  Haha. I'm surprised you lasted as long as you did in Japan – all that slurping  😃 But I hear you, the loud smacking/chomping of food and eating with your mouth open is mildly annoying to me.

                                  The big thing about it is when it's out of place… People being loud and uncouth at a Bar & Grill is expected... Slurping at a ramen shop is expected... Kids at McDonald's is expected.

                                  Hopefully I seem like less of an asshole now.... Lol!

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    I agree.  I hate what I consider to be bad manners in the UK.  But when I am in Japan, I can slurp like the best of them…

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • gaseousclayG
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                                      @Giles:

                                      But when I am in Japan, I can slurp like the best of them…

                                      Oddly enough, despite being half-Japanese I could never slurp noodles. The steam makes me cough and spit my food up.

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                                      • SeulS
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                                        Are you part German as well?..  😉

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                                        • gaseousclayG
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                                          @gaseousclay:

                                          @UnTucked:

                                          I have strong aversions to sounds…

                                          Did I also mention that I'll leave a restaurant if people nearby are talking too loud or have bad table manners (Gulping, chomping, smacking...)? But, that's an entirely different subject, and is subjective as well, as nearly all things in life are.

                                          Haha. I'm surprised you lasted as long as you did in Japan – all that slurping  😃 But I hear you, the loud smacking/chomping of food and eating with your mouth open is mildly annoying to me.

                                          The big thing about it is when it's out of place… People being loud and uncouth at a Bar & Grill is expected... Slurping at a ramen shop is expected... Kids at McDonald's is expected.

                                          Hopefully I seem like less of an asshole now.... Lol!

                                          I try to be mindful of eating habits and how they're reflected in different cultures. My mom, who is Japanese, slurps/smacks/chomps her food very loudly. It bugs me but I wouldn't say anything to her about it because that's how it is for her. Her and her boyfriend also inhale their food as if it were their last meal. I, on the other hand, take my time and enjoy my food. My mom explained to me that her boyfriend grew up in a big family and being the youngest he always had to eat fast, otherwise, his siblings would eat everything.

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                                          • gaseousclayG
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                                            @Seul:

                                            Are you part German as well?..  😉

                                            My paternal grandparents were of Swedish and German descent 😉

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