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    • AppfaffA
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      I have always been an angel…

      Well, at least I’m pretty certain of it.

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      • Stuart.TS
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        @UnTucked:

        @gaseousclay:

        ….but we were all little shits at some point in our lives. Amirite?

        I was a "turd" at my worst, never a full-blown "shit", [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

        Me too, and did my ol' man throw technology at me to shut me up? No, he threw a shoe usually.

        I am that dad that doesn't give a shit about coming over to your table and reminding you that your not the only people in the restaurant. Works too.

        I don't get it. Our 3 year old is mental usually, but we just keep him entertained by talking to him and being stupid. This week's game while getting dinner at the l8cal was 'how many boogers did it take to build the booger candle in the middle of the table?'. Got 1 1/2 hrs out of that one.

        I don't get the 'only way to keep them quite'. It's not the easiest it's the laziest…let's see how that goes down 😃

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        • UnTuckedU
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          At 21 years old with 1.5yr old twins and a newborn, we were just considerate…

          We did our best to keep them under control, and if we were in a losing situation, we packed up and left. Until the kids were old enough to REALLY understand our expectations, and the consequences if they weren't followed (5yrs old twins, and 4 years old youngest), we rarely ate out or put ourselves in situations where "annoying kids" would be a burden on anyone else... If they can't behave and follow instructions at home, they surely won't in public...

          #VeryUnpopularOpinion

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          • Matty123M
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            In the words of the almost great Reuben Cleaver “Balls to EVERYONE else.”

            Advice given to me on flying long distance with a child.

            @neph93  😉 almost…

            Maybe so. Maybe not

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            • joesaintjohnJ
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              Lori and I are screen free parents…people freak out like we’re Amish. That being said, we are also VERY judgmental of all you pro-screeners. Almost to a vegan level.

              Fat dudes need good clothes too.

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              • tvenutoT
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                How do you see the forum without a screen?  Begone with your witchcraft!

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                • ChrisC
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                  I know a lot of parents with special needs kids.  Some seem perfectly typical until you've been around them for a while, and then you learn that they aren't.  So if it comes to letting a kid watch an iPad during dinner or biting himself until he bleeds, then an iPad seems ok.

                  I'm not going to assume I know what's best for someone else's child.

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                  • Stuart.TS
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                    @Chris:

                    I know a lot of parents with special needs kids.  Some seem perfectly typical until you've been around them for a while, and then you learn that they aren't.  So if it comes to letting a kid watch an iPad during dinner or biting himself until he bleeds, then an iPad seems ok.

                    I'm not going to assume I know what's best for someone else's child.

                    @Chris I'm a social worker and work with people who live with autism. I completely get your point, and of course you are right. I'm talking laziness not necessity. There is research that suggests ignoring children and letting them use technology instead of engaging has an affect emotionally on confidence and interpersonal skills.

                    As with everything in life, context is essential.

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                    • Stuart.TS
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                      @joesaintjohn and @untucked lets go out for dinner…I think we'd get on just fine, as would our kids. We can send them off to bother other diners at their tables. There's a very fine line between what the public see as 'cute' and "annoying' child behaviour.

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                      • steelworkerS
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                        I'm the problem when we dine out.  😶

                        Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                        Well, I have others.

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                        • UnTuckedU
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                          @Stuart.T:

                          There's a very fine line between what the public see as 'cute' and "annoying' child behaviour.

                          Very true.

                          At least once a month, I find myself leaving a public place because of annoying kids (Stores, restaurants, etc)… I 've also never returned to friends' homes and never invited them to mine again because of annoying kids.

                          And to think, I used to want to be a teacher, lmao!

                          **I'm also just an grinch, and am easily annoyed by people in general... But don't worry, if you'll be at Fish & Chips, I promise we'll get along. A few beers turns me right into an antisocial butterfly, lol

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                          • Matty123M
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                            @steelworker:

                            I'm the problem when we dine out.  😶

                            Hahaha

                            Maybe so. Maybe not

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                            • gaseousclayG
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                              @Chris:

                              I know a lot of parents with special needs kids.  Some seem perfectly typical until you've been around them for a while, and then you learn that they aren't.  So if it comes to letting a kid watch an iPad during dinner or biting himself until he bleeds, then an iPad seems ok.

                              I'm not going to assume I know what's best for someone else's child.

                              This x10

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                              • madmondayM
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                                zippers are so much better than buttonfly for function sake, but buttonfly looks so much cooler than zippers when the denim/chinos get seasoned and ages

                                I hate undoing buttonfly to go take a piss and then doing it back up

                                think I've lost at lest 10 minutes of my life over the course of my journey

                                head high, middle finger higher

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                                  Pencils and paper don’t take up much more room than iPads, that’s our solution and our kids usually seem happy with it. Even if you forget them, restaurants are often happy to supply. Talking to your kids is a good option too!

                                  We’re not anti-screen but consider them as a last resort rather than a first.

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                                  • madmondayM
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                                    there is never a one size fits all solution to anything.  it's super easy to sit on the sideline and say I would/wouldn't do this or that until you are actually living in that person's shoes.

                                    doesn't mean you shouldn't have your opinion on what you think you would/wouldn't do in a situation but when it boils down to it you never know until you are actually starved for time with your partner/spouse but can't get a babysitter at short notice and if you all look at the kitchen walls one more day while trying to shovel a meal down your throats after a long day at a thankless job could lead to the quicker end of your already doomed relationships with your family

                                    but this is un-pop ops so you know

                                    head high, middle finger higher

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                                    • gaseousclayG
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                                      @madmonday:

                                      there is never a one size fits all solution to anything.  it's super easy to sit on the sideline and say I would/wouldn't do this or that until you are actually living in that person's shoes.

                                      doesn't mean you shouldn't have your opinion on what you think you would/wouldn't do in a situation but when it boils down to it you never know until you are actually starved for time with your partner/spouse but can't get a babysitter at short notice and if you all look at the kitchen walls one more day while trying to shovel a meal down your throats after a long day at a thankless job could lead to the quicker end of your already doomed relationships with your family

                                      but this is un-pop ops so you know

                                      Exactly. When I met with my brother and his family last week I was trying to play catch up because I hadn't seen them in 11 yrs. My son got along well with his cousin (who has Autism) and they played some game on his phone. I think it's important to set forth boundaries for your children and follow through. It's a work in progress. I mentioned before that I once witnessed a mom screaming obscenities at her 5 yo boy at a Target. He didn't appear to be doing anything wrong but it was her use of language that really bothered me. Had she physically hit the boy I might've said something, otherwise, it's not my place to insert myself into someone else's business.

                                      My boy is very social and thrives on playing with others. He's outgoing, friendly and has many friends, but sometimes he might do something inappropriate, in which case I step in and make sure he doesn't repeat certain behaviors. It's tough.

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                                      • UnTuckedU
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                                        @madmonday:

                                        there is never a one size fits all solution to anything.  it's super easy to sit on the sideline and say I would/wouldn't do this or that until you are actually living in that person's shoes.

                                        doesn't mean you shouldn't have your opinion on what you think you would/wouldn't do in a situation but when it boils down to it you never know until you are actually starved for time with your partner/spouse but can't get a babysitter at short notice and if you all look at the kitchen walls one more day while trying to shovel a meal down your throats after a long day at a thankless job could lead to the quicker end of your already doomed relationships with your family

                                        but this is un-pop ops so you know

                                        Definitely, but compassion and understanding goes both ways though…

                                        As a young parent, that's why I would just remove our family from the situation and leave. It just made more sense for us to be "inconvenienced", instead of inconveniencing the entire restaurant or store, because the only thing worse than a crying baby or annoying kid is someone else's crying baby or annoying kid, lol

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                                        • gaseousclayG
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                                          @UnTucked:

                                          As a young parent, that's why I would just remove our family from the situation and leave. It just made more sense for us to be "inconvenienced", instead of inconveniencing the entire restaurant or store, because the only thing worse than a crying baby or annoying kid is someone else's crying baby or annoying kid, lol

                                          Crying babies used to bother me before I was a parent. After my son was born my views completely changed and now it doesn't bother me at all. Likewise with annoying kids. We all have our own personal tolerances to those things

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                                          • UnTuckedU
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                                            I have strong aversions to sounds…

                                            Did I also mention that I'll leave a restaurant if people nearby are talking too loud or have bad table manners (Gulping, chomping, smacking...)? But, that's an entirely different subject, and is subjective as well, as nearly all things in life are.

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