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    • Matty123M
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      ^^ me too. Blue bags are great but I was wondering the same thing.

      Maybe so. Maybe not

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      • AppfaffA
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        WhT is the best stove you can buy?

        Wolf? Thermador? Bosch? Viking?

        Culinary pros, let me know your thoughts

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          Don't know about "best," but Wolf makes a terrific range of… Ranges. And ovens. Speaking from experience using them and with no comparative expreience on the others here.

          They feel commercial grade, where Viking was always targeted at the high-end home.

          Think it, be it.

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          • Clint_DC
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            Surprisingly, one of the most reliable appliances we've bought is a Bertazzoni range.  I picked up our dual fuel 30" range for less than half of retail from these guys:

            http://www.designerhomesurplus.com/mainSearch.php?page=0&sort=0&rows=10&key=&man=&lvl1=Cooking&lvl2=Ranges&lvl3=&siz=&fin=&pow=&pro=&ser=&pMin=&pMax=&ste=

            It had damage on both sides but once we installed it, you'd never have any clue that it wasn't perfect which is most of the reason we were able to get it for such a great price.

            Otherwise, I know Wolf is great but you definitely pay for it.  Blue Star ranges are supposed to be incredibly well built and great performers but they're not cheap either.

            ATX IH Hoarder

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            • ChrisC
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              Never had a Viking, but it's surprisingly pleasant to go to Greenwood, Mississippi and tour their factory.  If you do a custom order, they'll put your picture on the unit and send you photos as it proceeds through assembly.  If I remember correctly, everyone who works on it signs the back, which is kinda cool.

              They also have a hotel, restaurant, and cooking school in town.  Didn't go to the cooking school, but the hotel and restaurant are excellent.  Or at least they were ten years ago…

              Damn, I'm old.

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              • mclaincauseyM
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                @Chris:

                Never had a Viking, but it's surprisingly pleasant to go to Greenwood, Mississippi and tour their factory.  If you do a custom order, they'll put your picture on the unit and send you photos as it proceeds through assembly.  If I remember correctly, everyone who works on it signs the back, which is kinda cool.

                They also have a hotel, restaurant, and cooking school in town.  Didn't go to the cooking school, but the hotel and restaurant are excellent.  Or at least they were ten years ago…

                Damn, I'm old.

                I'm friends with the Carls, a good family. Though I haven't had the pleasure, it doesn't surprise me that the factory visit is a nice experience.

                Think it, be it.

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                • J
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                  Wife,is very happy with her Viking. Dependable is the operative word.

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                  • AppfaffA
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                    Thanks for the feedback guys - WOLF is the preferred range/oven combo by builders down here for higher end installations, where Viking was always spoken about as the pinnacle growing up.

                    My mom had a Daccor she has had for nearly 20 years with no issues, but I’ve heard horror stories.

                    I’ll look into the Other you guys mentioned as well.

                    But Inwill admit, from an aesthetic POV, the red knobs do something for me lol [emoji23]

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                    • mclaincauseyM
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                      The scuttlebutt about Viking is that product quality declined in the last few years. They have been acquired by some other company, but I don't know whether that will be good or bad.

                      That said, I've seen a spontaneous electrical fire in the convection oven of a Wolf before so anecdotally I could criticize their quality and safety.

                      Think it, be it.

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                      • ROmanR
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                        I have a commercial grade 36" gas range / oven, and a 30" electric wall oven. Both Jenn Air, no problems with either.  OK, don't go by me, House built in 2011, I have Jenn Air fridge, dishwasher, range, commercial grade, and wall oven microwave combo, never had problems, but according to consumer affairs there are. Oh well.

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                        • ChrisC
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                          I had a Jenn Air.  I posted about it once before:
                          @Chris:

                          My oven is a horrible piece of crap.  It unpredictably runs anywhere from 50°F-75°F (10°C-24°C) cold.  I spend a solid half hour adjusting it to get the proper temperature each time I cook.  It has a digital control panel on the front that shorts out if it gets wet.  I've replaced it 3 times, because (duh) occasionally things get spilled on the front of a stove. The digital clock runs about 2 minutes per week slow, so I reset it every month or so, when it gets 5 minutes or more off.  The burner control knobs catch on clothing, the glass top cracked when I clipped it with a pot, and there are other, lesser issues.  I hate it intensely, but the damn thing refuses to die.

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                          • AppfaffA
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                            I actually like Jen Air, and would install if I had a pier and beam home with a down draft. All our homes are slab unless it’s rather older, and even most of them Have ductwork for a vent hood. My grandparents had Jen air in their MCM house we sold of theirs and they worked like a charm.

                            Anyone use Thermador? I kind of like their intensely commercial looking kit in a residential
                            Space.

                            I have a client who owns an appliance repair company and I asked her the same question. She said just buy Bosch and enjoy the warranty which will replace everything every 5 years.  Which is accurate, as my parents had their dishwasher replaced in year 9 after their remodel,
                            And then again for free in year 4 of the second models installation. Whoever writes their warranties either 1. Is an idiot, 2. Has a misconstrued sense of German reliability… but I do like their stuff and will probably replace my broken GE dishwasher with a BOSCH if our house dosnt sell soon...

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                            • Matty123M
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                              I’ve always wanted an AGA Cooker. They are fantastic

                              Maybe so. Maybe not

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                              • neph93N
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                                My Mum adores them.

                                “Some of those that work forces
                                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                • Matty123M
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                                  ^ smart lady. The certainly aren’t green or energy efficient but I might never leave the house if I had one of those.

                                  Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                  • ChrisC
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                                    @Appfaff:

                                    I actually like Jen Air, and would install if I had a pier and beam home with a down draft.

                                    The down draft was one of the things I hated about mine. It did nothing except pull the burner flame sideways.

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      For max, "I aint ever getting out of here", you need one of these (my gran had one in her farmhouse)….Hers was solid fuel and required a considerable level of commitment to keep going, but jeez, I loved it.  But then again, I did not cook then, now I cook, an Aga is the last thing I would buy.... :o

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        @Matty123:

                                        ^ smart lady. The certainly aren’t green or energy efficient but I might never leave the house if I had one of those.

                                        Her new(ish) one runs on gas and heats four rooms so It probably pays it way. But that bit of the house they live in is a few hundred years old and was built around a hearth where the aga is now.

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          @Giles:

                                          That is exactly like the one they had when they bought the house.

                                          EDIT: in fact now I think about it I think they kept the shell and just upgraded to a gas heating mechanism…

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                          • Matty123M
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                                            @Giles @neph93  they certainly aren’t practical but it’s the centerpiece of
                                            My dream kitchen/house.

                                            Maybe so. Maybe not

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