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    • gaseousclayG
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      @Graeme:

      @gaseousclay the trouble with the Alien series is that the tropes were pretty much exhausted after Aliens. As Ridley Scott put it, "The beast is cooked."

      I could see two or three ways to take the series forward:

      • Move the storyline onto something else in the universe. That's what Scott was trying with Prometheus (the Engineers) and Alien Covenant and Awakening (the AIs).

      • Scale up the threat. Rather than one or two aliens on a spaceship, do a World War Z scenario where they take over the Earth.

      • Expand on the themes in the original, doing the equivalent of Blade Runner 2049 to the original film.

      There were some intriguing ideas in the concept art for what became Alien Covenant. Shame they didn't go that way. It would have been a more interesting movie.

      I quite liked Neil Blomkamp's concept art for his idea of an Alien movie. Granted, his last couple of movies bombed but I don't think you can judge the merits of a director based on the financial success of a film. A lot of sci-fi/horror movies were certified duds back in the 80's but are now considered cult classics. His concept art almost looked like an Alien version of Jurassic World, except put an Alien queen in place of Indominus Rex.

      The problem with Ridley is that he brought in screenwriters who weren't very good and he de-mystified the Space Jockey. I liked the actors in Prometheus and Covenant, and the movies were visually appealing, but the storytelling fell flat on its back. I liked that Ridley went back to his horror roots with Covenent but the ending was a complete mess. It was truly one of the WTF moments that I felt was unnecessary.

      But yes, somebody should've taken control of the ship and steered the franchise in a new direction that doesn't necessarily rely on Ripley being at the center of the film (like the Skywalker's were with Star Wars).

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      • Matty123M
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        @gaseousclay:

        Another point i'll make regarding Star Wars, or any film that relies on the creative vision of 1 man, is that viewers get fatigued when it seems like the ideas have run out. Take Ridley Scott for example. He paved the way for the sci-fi and horror genres but lately his output has been horrible. The Alien prequels were duds and if there's anyone to blame for that it's Ridley. I think the Alien franchise should've stuck with the way they originally did the sequels and that was to bring in outside directors that brought their own creative ideas into the Alien universe. Of course, Alien 3 and 4 were failures when compared to 1 and 2 but then Ridley stepped back into the fold and made an even bigger mess with Prometheus and Covenant. Now, Fox has decided to cancel the sequel that was to follow Covenant.

        Thank you for that. Prometheus and covenant were flaming terds. Ruined the whole
        Series for me. So the aliens were just some science experiment by fasbender droid?? Boring

        Maybe so. Maybe not

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        • gaseousclayG
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          Finally saw Blade Runner: 2049 and enjoyed it. Kinda long but I like that Denis Villaneuve kept with the theme/look/sound of the original and made it interesting. 2 thumbs up  😎

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          • Matty123M
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            Dunkirk was very good. But u can file that under “No shit”

            Maybe so. Maybe not

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            • gaseousclayG
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              @Matty123:

              Dunkirk was very good. But u can file that under “No shit”

              This is on my to watch list. But, I pretty much like anything Christopher Nolan does

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              • tmgT
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                ^agreed, Dunkirk was proper edge-of-the-seat cinema!
                On a related theme, saw The Darkest Hour yesterday, which features a mesmerising performance from Gary Oldman, highly recommended!

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                • BloodnThunderB
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                  Maybe this should go under unpopular opinions but I thought Dunkirk was a bit dull for a war movie.  Part of this was probably because it had been so hyped up to me prior to seeing it.  Really enjoyed Blade Runner 2049.

                  Has anyone seen Hostiles yet?  I haven't gone to a move at a theater since the Revenant but am considering going for this one.

                  IG: Shadesofindig0

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                  • Matty123M
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                    no ones perfect @BloodnThunder  😃

                    Maybe so. Maybe not

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                    • ShoremanS
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                      The Post is okay. I'll be shocked and disappointed if it wins best picture.

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                        • DionD
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                          Looking forward to that more than the regular SW movies. I'm not feeling Han Solo's actor, though, but hope for the best.

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                          • ShoremanS
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                            @Dion:

                            Looking forward to that more than the regular SW movies. I'm not feeling Han Solo's actor, though, but hope for the best.

                            I feel like Chris Pine would have been a good casting choice but, I guess having him play Kirk and Solo is a bit of a sci-fi faux pas.

                            Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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                            • ChrisC
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                              Plus, he's 37, which is two years older than Harrison Ford was when Star Wars came out.

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                              • ShoremanS
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                                No kidding? Wow.
                                I also thought alden ehrenreich was a lot older than he actually is.

                                Meek, mild and dishonest with a special place in Hell.

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                                • ChrisC
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                                  I don't know anything about the movie, but from the vibe the trailer gives off, I almost feel like Ehrenreich is too old, too.  Seems more like it should be someone in his early twenties, not his late twenties.  That could just be my misimpression, though.

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                                  • JDelageJ
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                                    I was disappointed by Dunkirk too. I felt it didn't do justice to the amazing guts of the English people at that point in the war. It's such a stunning story that, compressed into a movie, people should stand up and clap at the end.

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                                    • AlexA
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                                      It was on the plane on the way here, but I didnt watch it. I don't think the 4" plane screen would have done it justice.

                                      Saw American Made & All Eyez On Me. One was OK, the other pretty rubbish. I am sure you can work out which is which

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                                      • ChrisC
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                                        Tom Cruise=unwatchable, 2 Pac=awesome.

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                                        • Megatron1505M
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                                          @Chris:

                                          Tom Cruise=unwatchable, 2 Pac=awesome.

                                          That was my instant opinion too.

                                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            I watched Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri, on the plane today.  Loved it…

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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