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Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

IHxVS777S-21 - 21oz raw SBG Super Slim Tapered Cut - A Vater und Sohn Collab

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    Jett129
    見習いボス
    Joined: 17 Aug 2011

    Just curious,have any of the 777 jeans worked for you. It might be the low rise that is throwing you off. It takes some getting used to. When I got mine I asked IHUK to find the pair that had the highest rise.

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      Max Power
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 31 Oct 2010

      @illo59 Yes indeed, I haven't worn them very often, but there's definitely stretch in them.

      @elclintor:

      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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        illo59
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 28 Dec 2015

        @Jett129 the VS777 was the only one i tried so can't really say. But yes, that might be a reason. Also i'm not a big fan of most super slim-jeans but these seem to look pretty decent… or the sizing wasn't the best... I don't know. I guess I'll have to try again.

        @Max Power Thanks! You should wear them more often, it's imo your best fitting jeans- judging from the pictures in the forum.

        When my time comes I want to be buried face down. That way whoever doesn’t like me can kiss my ass.

        -Red Forman

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          Max Power
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 31 Oct 2010

          Thanks mate - I think you're right! I wish however the backrise would be a tiny bit higher, other than that they're a fantsistic cut (that I never thought would work on me).

          @elclintor:

          > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

          last edited by 29 Nov 2017, 15:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Steffen
            Joined: 26 Jul 2017

            @Max:

            Thanks mate - I think you're right! I wish however the backrise would be a tiny bit higher, other than that they're a fantsistic cut (that I never thought would work on me).

            Agreed, especially before the Fabric is broken in, at least on me, the Back sits a tat low.

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              Appfaff
              Raw and Unwashed
              Joined: 11 Oct 2013

              @illo59:

              These look so good on almost everybody, why didn't i like them when i tried them on? really want these but i am afraid i can't make the cut work for me… i assume that these stretch a good bit like always with the 21 oz denim?

              I have found the 21oz SBG to have the most stretch of any IH denim I have had. My 8301s, once about 4 weeks old, had stretched 2+ inches in the waist, and nearly 0.5 in the thigh. A hot soak brought them back close to pre-wear sizing, but stretched back quick.

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                Dion
                Joined: 15 Mar 2015

                One should consider that these SBGs are raw (unwashed) whereas e.g. the 555-03 are once washed.

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                  Max Power
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 31 Oct 2010

                  Exactly. Mine shrunk a bit after the soak but stretched back to (and a bit beyond) raw state. I'm still waiting for them to get super soft and comfy as the 21 oz Indigo denim. However, I recall the 555-03 to feel a bit stiffer even after many wears. I guess a machine wash would solve that problem, but I'm afraid of washing marks at an early stage.

                  @elclintor:

                  > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                    Dion
                    Joined: 15 Mar 2015

                    I agree, even the onewashed SBG is pretty stiff at the beginning but a soak/wash definitely softens them up a lot. I think it will take a lot of wears to achieve that without washing.

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                      illo59
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 28 Dec 2015

                      i remember them to be bit loose in the waist but a bit tighter that i'm used to in the thighs… i could need stretch in the thighs but don't think i can tolerate much in the waist.  ::) i wear the 21 oz denim atm on a daily base which i like best after washing but after about 8-10 wears they tend to be very loose everywhere. i ask myself if going a size down would help much or if they'll bee uncomfortable in the long run.

                      thanks for the input everybody.

                      When my time comes I want to be buried face down. That way whoever doesn’t like me can kiss my ass.

                      -Red Forman

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                        Max Power
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 31 Oct 2010

                        If it helps - my 35 has a 37 waist which is normally 1" too wide for me. In this cut it makes the cut work as it gives me mobility in the top block. I wouldnt want to size down

                        @elclintor:

                        > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

                        last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 05:21 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          illo59
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 28 Dec 2015

                          good point, i normally prefer a loose fit too @Max Power - I hope i can fund them after christmas and will visit constantin and sascha for a few fittings 🙂

                          When my time comes I want to be buried face down. That way whoever doesn’t like me can kiss my ass.

                          -Red Forman

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                            Max Power
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 31 Oct 2010

                            @illo59 feel free to shoot me a PM when you go there, maybe we can meet

                            @elclintor:

                            > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

                            last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 14:42 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              madmonday
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 13 Oct 2009

                              Vater und Sohn have been churning out some quality collaborations with Iron Heart.

                              These jeans are awesome (despite my problem with the rise) and the 187s are an original take on the beloved shacked

                              thanks for the correction @Alex  😞

                              head high, middle finger higher

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                                Alex
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                                The olive 187 is a Burg & Schild collab  🙂

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                                  manufc10
                                  Iron Heart Deity
                                  Joined: 14 Mar 2015

                                  @Max:

                                  If it helps - my 35 has a 37 waist which is normally 1" too wide for me. In this cut it makes the cut work as it gives me mobility in the top block. I wouldnt want to size down

                                  This is what I'm saying.  With low rise jeans like this I can 1" to almost 2" bigger in the waist than a higher rise jean.

                                  last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 17:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    manufc10
                                    Iron Heart Deity
                                    Joined: 14 Mar 2015

                                    I have to as a matter of fact.  It's the only way they are comfortable and the only way the thighs will fit me.

                                    last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 17:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Dion
                                      Joined: 15 Mar 2015

                                      Yep, otherwise the jeans will also simply slide down ???.

                                      last edited by 30 Nov 2017, 19:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        illo59
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 28 Dec 2015

                                        @Max:

                                        @illo59 feel free to shoot me a PM when you go there, maybe we can meet

                                        will do buddy

                                        When my time comes I want to be buried face down. That way whoever doesn’t like me can kiss my ass.

                                        -Red Forman

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                                          mikebarhoot
                                          Iron Heart Deity
                                          Joined: 15 Dec 2015

                                          day ~32. oderous. quick cold wash w woolite dark. rinse a couple of times and hangin out to dry a few hours. prior pics of the dye loss were no joke. wow.

                                          last edited by 5 Dec 2017, 02:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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