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    BloodnThunder
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 20 May 2015

    Just posted some pre and post soak fit pics on my Instagram, Shadesofindig0.  Long story short I basically boiled these and the denim shrunk like crazy.  So for anyone hoping to score some on the restock don't be too discouraged when they show up and seem huge.  My post-soak measurements may be a little off because I did them quickly this morning before heading out to work.

    Pre-Soak:
    Waist:  15"
    Top Thigh:  12.75"
    Knee:  9.5"
    Hem:  8.5"

    Post-Soak (slightly damp)
    Waist:  14"
    Top thigh:  11"
    Knee:  8.75:
    Hem:  8"

    IG: Shadesofindig0

    last edited by 18 Sept 2017, 15:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      Filthy2123ozjunkie
      見習いボスー
      Joined: 21 Jan 2013

      Soaking my Roy's in scalding hot water. I gotta say that the denim is EXTREMLY UNDERWHELMING compared to Iron Heart
      But the craftsmanship is flawless.

      last edited by 24 Sept 2017, 21:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        BloodnThunder
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 20 May 2015

        I agree….  But I have always had a negative bias toward Cone denim.  It's just not as interesting to me as what a number of Japanese makers are producing.

        IG: Shadesofindig0

        last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 17:51 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          Filthy2123ozjunkie
          見習いボスー
          Joined: 21 Jan 2013

          I'm sure I'm likely to come off as a troll or whatever. But truth be told:

          I wore mine around today at work and they were like drinking decaffeinated coffee when I had an iced caramel macchiato (Iron Heart 21 oz denim) waiting for me. Looks like these will end up work beaters or I'll give them to somebody because they are definitely not for me. The pocket bags are heavier than the denim is. The chambray iron heart uses in the 13 oz CPO is about the same weight. It is shame Roy is so cynical about Japanese denim because it is definitely superior to come mills. It's a shame because his craftsmanship is angelic. It's perfect. But iron heart's is pretty great too. So I guess I have no reason to ever wear another brand of jeans ever again.

          last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 20:18 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            sabergirl
            見習いボス
            Joined: 4 Oct 2013

            Haha Mike, you got me laughing over here. I never felt excited about the one pair of Roy's I had, and ended up passing them along, too. I think it's truly the denim. Not even the light weight, just the lack of…j'nest ce qois...murdered trying to spell in French, there.

            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

            last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 20:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              Filthy2123ozjunkie
              見習いボスー
              Joined: 21 Jan 2013

              @sabergirl:

              j'nest ce qois

              Ex-squeeze-me? Haha

              You don't know what?  😃

              last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 21:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                JDelage
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                "je ne sais quoi"  😉

                last edited by 25 Sept 2017, 23:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  Akuma no uta
                  Banned
                  Joined: 16 Aug 2015

                  Damn. What a bargain!

                  last edited by 16 Oct 2017, 23:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    BloodnThunder
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 20 May 2015

                    Still trying to figure out if this is a joke.

                    IG: Shadesofindig0

                    last edited by 17 Oct 2017, 00:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Akuma no uta
                      Banned
                      Joined: 16 Aug 2015

                      I looked at Roy’s Instagram and apparently he’s giving the pair away to the highest bidder. So it worked opposite.

                      last edited by 17 Oct 2017, 00:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        sabergirl
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                        Ah. I knew it couldn't be for real.

                        Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                        last edited by 17 Oct 2017, 00:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Matty123
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 4 Apr 2017

                          @Filthy25ozJunkie:

                          I'm sure I'm likely to come off as a troll or whatever. But truth be told:

                          I wore mine around today at work and they were like drinking decaffeinated coffee when I had an iced caramel macchiato (Iron Heart 21 oz denim) waiting for me. Looks like these will end up work beaters or I'll give them to somebody because they are definitely not for me. The pocket bags are heavier than the denim is. The chambray iron heart uses in the 13 oz CPO is about the same weight. It is shame Roy is so cynical about Japanese denim because it is definitely superior to come mills. It's a shame because his craftsmanship is angelic. It's perfect. But iron heart's is pretty great too. So I guess I have no reason to ever wear another brand of jeans ever again.

                          What is Roy’s cynical view on Japanese denim?

                          Maybe so. Maybe not

                          last edited by 17 Oct 2017, 00:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            BloodnThunder
                            Raw and Unwashed
                            Joined: 20 May 2015

                            I don't think Roy is anti-Japanese denim, I just think he appreciates his jeans being made entirely in the US, and he just so happens to have a really good relationship with Cone who I believe is willing to work with him on fabrics.  His most recent shirts were all made out of Japanese fabrics.

                            IG: Shadesofindig0

                            last edited by 17 Oct 2017, 13:34 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              JDelage
                              啓蒙家
                              Joined: 13 Jan 2012

                              Relevant to this conversation I think:

                              https://www.heddels.com/2017/10/cone-mills-close-white-oak-plant-last-american-selvedge-denim-mill/

                              last edited by 18 Oct 2017, 21:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • DionD
                                Dion
                                Joined: 15 Mar 2015

                                The end of an era. I guess he might source his denim from Japan from now on.

                                last edited by 18 Oct 2017, 21:36 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Matty123
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 4 Apr 2017

                                  That’s a bummer. My first Selvedge denim jeans were made from Cone. Tellason 12.5oz Ankara. I really liked their 14.75 oz. too.

                                  Maybe so. Maybe not

                                  last edited by 18 Oct 2017, 22:16 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • manufc10M
                                    manufc10
                                    Iron Heart Deity
                                    Joined: 14 Mar 2015

                                    Cone had its place, for sure.  Sad end.

                                    last edited by 18 Oct 2017, 23:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Steffen
                                      Joined: 26 Jul 2017

                                      I don´t really get why they have to close, the demand and use of their Denims seems as high as never before, Levis, Tellason and Gustin alone must need Thousands of Meters.

                                      last edited by 19 Oct 2017, 11:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • tvenutoT
                                        tvenuto
                                        Raw and Unwashed
                                        Joined: 15 Sept 2016

                                        That's what happens when you're a drop in the bucket, and that bucket is but a drop in a massively larger bucket.

                                        last edited by 19 Oct 2017, 15:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • mikebarhootM
                                          mikebarhoot
                                          Iron Heart Deity
                                          Joined: 15 Dec 2015

                                          Interesting read Telason posted on FB.

                                          Our Thoughts on the Closure of Cone Mills White Oak

                                          When our friend and manager of the Cone Mills office in San Francisco called on the morning of October 18 and asked us if we were sitting down, we knew what he was going to say.  The big surprise came a few months ago when we learned that we were the fourth largest customer at White Oak. We thought: "if this is the case, where are the big brands?"  Of course, we all know where they are – chasing down the lowest cost production around the globe to satisfy the demands of their customers -- who care about quantity over quality, price over provenance.

                                          If White Oak is the size of a football field, the Draper looms that make the selvedge denim take up the space of half of an end zone.  The mill depends on selling a large volume of fabric produced on their modern looms -- the exact type of fabric large brands and retailers use.  As these brands and private label producers moved their production out of the U.S., there was no way they would ship fabric from North Carolina to Bangladesh, China or Vietnam.  Many thanks to Cone Mills for fighting the good fight and keeping White Oak afloat as long as possible.

                                          We visited White Oak in Greensboro a couple of years ago and met the people that, in many cases, had been working at Cone Mills for decades, some right alongside their parents.  We saw the beautiful antique looms humming along, producing some of the most coveted denim in the world.  We saw the spun yarns taking dips in indigo baths.  We witnessed the pride the workers had in being a part of something historic, something important.  The faces of these people and the memories of meeting them are the first thoughts we had when we heard of White Oak's closure.

                                          In the meantime, remember that entities like White Oak are businesses not museums and if you care about them, support them with your wallet.  To that end, we have plenty of our core denim products made from our 12.5, 14.75 and 16.5 oz White Oak selvedge denim in stock, in work and rolls of fabric ready to use at our factory in San Francisco.  Tellason is almost nine years old and during this time we have built up tremendous respect for makers in all categories that pursue quality and timelessness with their products.  The same goes for the next mill that will produce our selvedge denim in 2018 and beyond.

                                          last edited by 19 Oct 2017, 19:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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