Random Rants
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Preach to these damn colonials G
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I’ve had a lot of trucks and the only thing I can say for certain is I don’t like the way that Ford trucks hold up. My old Man always bought fords for our construction business and I was never that thrilled with them after the first year. Their diesels performed much longer than their gas trucks.
I will completely disagree with this. I've been in the fleet maintenance biz for 21 years and if you properly maintain a Ford (or Chevy for that matter) they will last a very long time. With the accounts that we have Fords are by far the most popular make among construction fleets, with Chevy being the second. There are Fords that we maintain that have 350,000 plus on their engines, gas engines.
Of course there are issues with certain engines and that can be said for both Ford and Chevy. For example the 5.4L 3 valve that Ford ran for a while had issues with their timing chain tensioners going bad which would then destroy the timing chain guides over time. Also issues with the cam phasers. Chevy's had oil pump issues in some of their 6.0's, motor mounts wear out very quick, oil pressure sending units always go bad, water pumps, AC blower motor resistors….Point is that each make will have their unique problems.
One thing I can say regarding construction fleets, nobody..and I mean nobody uses Dodge in the Phoenix area.
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Chevy and Ford 8's north of 40k with goodies. for a fuckin truck.
40k? That's not bad. I know guys driving pickups that stickered for over 60k. Texans love trucks, no matter how stupidly expensive. Or how little they'll be used as intended…
Texans do love their trucks, as do Arizonans.
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but for you truck people, do look into a HSV Maloo…
Awww, that's such a cute little thing. How long before it grows up and becomes a truck?
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unfortunately, in australia, US imported utes (trucks as you americans call it) are really expensive. the price of a f150/250 or dodge ram trucks are typically north of 100k.. even now with locally produced ford closing it's factory, wonder where they'll get the utes that we get here like the ranger and such..
What @louisbosco hasn't mentioned is that once an imported car's price goes over about $60K, the luxury car tax kicks in, and that adds 30% to the cost over that threshold. For a $100K truck, that'd be $10K extra. For something like a Ferrari (around $400K here), it's nearly $100K.
Then you've got the fact that Australia is a long way from anywhere, so shipping costs are factored in, and design rules (which are being phased out) specific to the local market. Manufacturers tend to price gouge, and cars are often supplied with all the options, in order to bump up the sticker price.
That said, the luxury car tax might be on the way out. Australia and Europe have a free trade agreement in the pipeline, and as it counts as an extra tariff, it could be repealed shortly as a part of the negotiations.
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Was eyeballing some 666uhr on self edge. Was about to buy and they are no longer available. Someone in this forum bought the last two pair in 38. Oh well. Pissed but oh well.
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Chevy and Ford 8's north of 40k with goodies. for a fuckin truck.
40k? That's not bad. I know guys driving pickups that stickered for over 60k. Texans love trucks, no matter how stupidly expensive. Or how little they'll be used as intended…
That's my geezer version of "When I was a kid a loaf of bread was…" Pennsylvanians love trucks too , especially Chevy and Ford . Dodge, not so much, at least where I work they have a bad rep.
And I saw a loaf of bread for over $5. That's fucked up. -
Preach to these damn colonials G
Can't even mock youse for Brexit since-you know. ???
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Truck?
This is what I want and at GBP9,999, I think it's a steal….
who's stealing from who? or is it whom?
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That's my geezer version of "When I was a kid a loaf of bread was…" Pennsylvanians love trucks too , especially Chevy and Ford . Dodge, not so much, at least where I work they have a bad rep.
And I saw a loaf of bread for over $5. That's fucked up.My dad complains about the price of cars by saying, "I'm not paying more for a car than I did for my first house." His first house was 45k, so he's starting to get slightly limited.
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The costs of trucks are getting slightly ridiculous. Or maybe the Options that most trucks include are the issue.
Ive seen some “pickups” with stickers upwards of 75k. A friend of mine had to
Scour the country for a GMC with a standard bed, Bench seat and no cab. And his son in law works for GMC -
$1 in 1992 is equal to $1.75 today…
and I don't think that includes food or energy.
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My dad complains about the price of cars by saying, "I'm not paying more for a car than I did for my first house." His first house was 45k, so he's starting to get slightly limited.
i'm pretty sure in the USA there's a lot of cars that are fit into that category.. considering a premium sedan, say a 320i is about 35k..
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The costs of trucks are getting slightly ridiculous. Or maybe the Options that most trucks include are the issue.
Ive seen some “pickups” with stickers upwards of 75k. A friend of mine had to
Scour the country for a GMC with a standard bed, Bench seat and no cab. And his son in law works for GMCAgreed. I wasn't really in the know on truck prices when my wife and I bought a car last December. When we were waiting for some paperwork to get done there was a brand new Tundra in the lobby….. Jaw just about hit the floor when I saw the price was just over $50K. I know the GMC/Ford/Dodge's can be $25K+ more which is insane to me. There are so many really good vehicle options for $75K, none of which are trucks.
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I'm not really understanding why people are so shocked that trucks are expensive now. A truck is so much more than a car and you can do so much with it than a car like I don't know…..tow and haul all kinds of shit. Plus they have all of the luxuries now that cars do so that is a factor in the cost as well. IMO you get much more bang for your buck with a truck than you do spending big money on a car. I would rather spend 50k plus on a truck than a car, but I am a truck guy.
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trucks were originally meant for work. cars for luxury. now a person is hard pressed to find a truck thats affordable and meant for work. cadillac pickup? denali pickup? 80k duely?
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Right…but I still don't see how that translates into "it should be cheaper". Trucks have been pretty pricey for quite a while now, especially diesels. With a truck you're getting a lot of transmission and engine, heavier duty suspension, brakes, etc....just because something is meant for work doesn't mean it should be cheaper.
It's very similar to IH and workwear in general. It's clothing originally meant for work but it's not cheap because of the quality of the materials and construction. They can take a beating and last forever. Same principle IMO.
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I don’t think it should be cheaper. I think the direction the market has taken has priced out most people. I think it should be simpler.