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    There's no Such Thing as a Stupid Question

    Some Really Boring (but useful) and Some Really Interesting Stuff!
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    • DionD
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      Are all IH jeans chainstitched on a Union Special in the workshops where they're being produced or only if hemmed at IHUK? The original hem is slightly different than the one after hemming.

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      • neph93N
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        ^ good question that.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

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        • Megatron1505M
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          I don't know the answer, but an easy give away is if the hem pulls slightly tight leading to more pronounced roping, this is a "fault" of the union special.

          I know many Japanese sewing houses use a mix between American machines (Union Specials) and the Japanese version, the Kansai Special.

          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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          • Megatron1505M
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            To further muddy the waters the Kansai can be frigged to replicate the fault of the Union.

            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            • neph93N
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              "Frigged"? You make learning fun Mega!

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

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              • neph93N
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                Seriously though that stuff is brilliant. Thanks for sharing.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • GilesG
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                  We use the same Union Special "head" (a 43200G) in the UK as the heads we use in the workshops in Japan, but these are not cadcam machines, they are not designed to produce uniform results. There are dozens of variables that can be tweaked.  We have 2 * 43200G's in the UK, one is set up for 18-25oz but it is virtually impossible to hem 14oz denim on it, so the second machine is currently being set up (needs some bits made for it, so that all user inputs, result in same machine movements) to do the "light-stuff".

                  The roping is caused by the interaction between the feed foot and the folder.  It's actually got nothing to do with the sewing machine itself, I could put a folder in front of any chain-stitching machine and get roping….

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • UnTuckedU
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                    @Giles:

                    The roping is caused by the interaction between the feed foot and the folder.  It's actually got nothing to do with the sewing machine itself, I could put a folder in front of any chain-stitching machine and get roping….

                    Ker-BOOM!

                    Big "denim wives tale" crushed

                    In search of:
                    IHV-04, med.
                    IHSH-185, large
                    IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                    • Megatron1505M
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                      That's what I meant by frigging the Kansai, just couldn't remember which bit caused the roping.

                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                      • neph93N
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                        Stop writing that word. I just can't stop signing the Sex Pistols song.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                        • ChrisC
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                          Yeah, it's skewing from unequal movement by the feed dog on the bottom and the presser foot on top.  I can make a standard flatbed lockstitch machine put roping on a hem.  Not easily, but I'm largely incompetent…

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                          • manufc10M
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                            And I thought I was a denim nerd. 😉

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                            • Megatron1505M
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                              I used to obsess over details, slubs, loom chatter, singed finishes, unbleached wefts etc….. These days I just wear jeans that I like and don't think too much about it  😎

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              • FurattoHeddoF
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                                @Megatron1505:

                                I just wear jeans that I like and don't think too much about it  😎

                                Wise words to live by.

                                "Don't ever be sorry"

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                                • SeulS
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                                  FRIGGING IN THE RIGGIN
                                  FRIGGING IN THE RIGGIN
                                  FRIGGING IN THE RIGGIN
                                  THERE WAS FUCK ALL ELSE TO DOOOO

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                                  • steelworkerS
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                                    @Seul:

                                    FRIGGING IN THE RIGGIN
                                    FRIGGING IN THE RIGGIN
                                    FRIGGING IN THE RIGGIN
                                    THERE WAS FUCK ALL ELSE TO DOOOO

                                    words of wisdom from the mad Belgian  😃

                                    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                                    Well, I have others.

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      The Sex Pistols misappropriated my regional vernacular  😠

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      • Matty123M
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                                        Will IHUK ship to Hawaii?

                                        Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                        • rocketR
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                                          Don't see I reason not to do so, but someone of the crew will get back to ya… Aloha

                                          rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

                                          It's all humbug, like everywhere
                                          R.I.P. Geo

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                                          • GilesG
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                                            Hawaii still in the world?

                                            If yes, yes.  If no, possible (but we'd need to talk)…..

                                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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