IH-634S - 21oz Selvedge Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo

[cbs21]

One more question. Are the measurements on the ironheart.co.uk website or the ones on Selfedge more accurate? I see a difference particularly in thigh measurement, which is what I'm most concerned about. Thanks!

[riffblaster general]

i've found the ironheart website measurements to be pretty spot on with just about everything i've ordered.

[vespr1198s]

if i recall correctly, self edge and IH use different measuring methods. this would account for the difference in measurements

[cbs21]

@vespr^1198s:

if i recall correctly, self edge and IH use different measuring methods. this would account for the difference in measurements

How else could they measure thigh? Like a couple inches down from crotch?

[Giles]

The reason we measure like this is beause it is the true circumference of the thigh and it is how all Japanese brands measure the thigh.  When I originally specced a pair of jeans and the thigh came back "wrong" from Haraki, I sat down and went throgh how I measured the jeans, when I showed him that I measured the thigh from the centre seam of the crotch he fell about laughing.

[Iron Heart Vienna]

thanx for that !
never thought of that but it seems logic to me.
do the US measure the same way, or is that just for japanese  brands ?

[Giles]

I don't know.  But as I deal only with Japanese, I thought I ought to do what they do….

[Giles]

Here is a good example of what I tried to describe above.

If measured to the centre seam, these would be 12" in the thigh, but if measured accurately (that is the full width of the thigh), then they measure 13.5".  The difference between the 2 ways of measuring will vary dependendent upon the cut.

But, the Japanese will tell you that the larger of the 2 measurements is the accurate way to measure:

[injunjack]

I have made same error, measuring from crotch seam. I'll have to make my comparisons again.

I'm glad this came up.

[cbs21]

I emailed SE and they said they measure 1inch below the crotch and straight out. So I'm still confused…

[Giles]

Anything on the IH UK site is measured as per the above….......

http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=293.msg42531#msg42531

Shoque will be updating the "How we measure" section of the site shortly - too complex for me (so he says)….........................

[jimmy]

that is the only way to measure the thigh, every other way is just the wrong way.
90degrees in from outer seam full length and double for full measurement.

key measuring points is aways the larges or smallest part of you.

@Giles:

[jimmy]

my first IH about 5 full days of wear.
size 34 is a very snug fit on me especially around the thigh.
i could get in a 33 but its pretty much painted on.

my measurements are

waist 34in
hip[seat/butt area] 40in
thigh 25in
inleg 31in

[jimmy]

some leg shots.

[Giles]

They'll loosen up on the thigh quite a bit.  Dont buy the Devils Fit or the Beatle Buster…..................

[jimmy]

@Giles:

They'll loosen up on the thigh quite a bit.  Dont buy the Devils Fit or the Beatle Buster…..................

they have already have loosen up abit, tight but not uncomfortable the chainstitched side seams helps alot on the comfit. "sigh" the curse of rugby back in the school days.

i wont be trying the devils fit or BB's myself but doesn't mean i wont be buying them

[injunjack]

@Giles:

They'll loosen up on the thigh quite a bit.  Dont buy the Devils Fit or the Beatle Buster…..................

This nails it.
My hip/seat is approx same as Jimmy's and thighs are just a tad smaller. I usually wear W32 jawns. That's what karate does to your lower body…
So when I have saved enough and not spent my jawnsfunds to shirts or something I'll be getting 634s W32's...

[Omega Man]

@Giles:

They'll loosen up on the thigh quite a bit.  Dont buy the Devils Fit or the Beatle Buster…..................

Would you recommend DC4 as an alternative instead?

[Giles]

OM, as an alternative to what? - sorry for being dim…

[injunjack]

I guess to 634S