IH-634S - 21oz Selvedge Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo

[hectic]

welcome cbs21. You are certainly not being annoying.

Firstly I would say that as I am at the other end of the dimension spectrum to you I am probably not the best to comment.

However, 634S is not baggy really whatever the size, "relaxed" is better description.

They will stretch a fair bit also FYI.

[hectic]

BTW: Given stretch quotient I would go true to size, but on the lower limit (i.e.: 32 for you)

[riffblaster general]

if you like the fit of your apc ns in 29 then i would size down 1 in the 634s.

[cbs21]

@riffblaster:

if you like the fit of your apc ns in 29 then i would size down 1 in the 634s.

I actually didn't like it at all-too tight and too much stretching. The button almost popped off.

@hectic:

BTW: Given stretch quotient I would go true to size, but on the lower limit (i.e.: 32 for you)

Are you referring to stretching just in the waist? I was hoping the thighs wouldn't have to stretch at all and they would be loose to begin with?

Thanks for the replies.

[hectic]

Yep, I was referring to waistband stretch only.

[hectic]

I cant imagine you will have an issue with the thigh measurement, unless you squat planets.

[riffblaster general]

@cbs21:

@riffblaster:

if you like the fit of your apc ns in 29 then i would size down 1 in the 634s.

I actually didn't like it at all-too tight and too much stretching. The button almost popped off.

@hectic:

BTW: Given stretch quotient I would go true to size, but on the lower limit (i.e.: 32 for you)

Are you referring to stretching just in the waist? I was hoping the thighs wouldn't have to stretch at all and they would be loose to begin with?

Thanks for the replies.

there you go then.  tts.

[cbs21]

One more question. Are the measurements on the ironheart.co.uk website or the ones on Selfedge more accurate? I see a difference particularly in thigh measurement, which is what I'm most concerned about. Thanks!

[riffblaster general]

i've found the ironheart website measurements to be pretty spot on with just about everything i've ordered.

[vespr1198s]

if i recall correctly, self edge and IH use different measuring methods. this would account for the difference in measurements

[cbs21]

@vespr^1198s:

if i recall correctly, self edge and IH use different measuring methods. this would account for the difference in measurements

How else could they measure thigh? Like a couple inches down from crotch?

[Giles]

The reason we measure like this is beause it is the true circumference of the thigh and it is how all Japanese brands measure the thigh.  When I originally specced a pair of jeans and the thigh came back "wrong" from Haraki, I sat down and went throgh how I measured the jeans, when I showed him that I measured the thigh from the centre seam of the crotch he fell about laughing.

[Iron Heart Vienna]

thanx for that !
never thought of that but it seems logic to me.
do the US measure the same way, or is that just for japanese  brands ?

[Giles]

I don't know.  But as I deal only with Japanese, I thought I ought to do what they do….

[Giles]

Here is a good example of what I tried to describe above.

If measured to the centre seam, these would be 12" in the thigh, but if measured accurately (that is the full width of the thigh), then they measure 13.5".  The difference between the 2 ways of measuring will vary dependendent upon the cut.

But, the Japanese will tell you that the larger of the 2 measurements is the accurate way to measure:

[injunjack]

I have made same error, measuring from crotch seam. I'll have to make my comparisons again.

I'm glad this came up.

[cbs21]

I emailed SE and they said they measure 1inch below the crotch and straight out. So I'm still confused…

[Giles]

Anything on the IH UK site is measured as per the above….......

http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=293.msg42531#msg42531

Shoque will be updating the "How we measure" section of the site shortly - too complex for me (so he says)….........................

[jimmy]

that is the only way to measure the thigh, every other way is just the wrong way.
90degrees in from outer seam full length and double for full measurement.

key measuring points is aways the larges or smallest part of you.

@Giles:

[jimmy]

my first IH about 5 full days of wear.
size 34 is a very snug fit on me especially around the thigh.
i could get in a 33 but its pretty much painted on.

my measurements are

waist 34in
hip[seat/butt area] 40in
thigh 25in
inleg 31in