The Flat Head
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Anyone have the plate buckle belt? I have belts out the ass but I really want a plate in black.
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Warm and sunny today, a great excuse to break out my TFH horse:
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Anyone have pair of 3012? torn between the SE and the R&H size charts… one seems just right, the other seems too small...
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Pretty sure they don't measure exactly the same way, which might explain the difference.
That said, I've had mixed experiences with Self Edge measurements.
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Anyone have pair of 3012? torn between the SE and the R&H size charts… one seems just right, the other seems too small...
I've purchased about half a dozen pairs of jeans from RnH, including some 3002, the measurements of all have been spot on. Also Danny is extremely helpful and knows his gear. Perhaps drop him a line.
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Thanks guys - @Danny RnH and I have already figured it out and think we got it all squared away.
Issue is probably because of a different batch of 3012 that came out when SE originally got them. The issue was SE's waist measure said it was "bigger" than RH, and since I know RH measures the IH way, it seemed weird since I can always count on SE's waist measures to be about .25 to 1.25 on their chart than when I measure the IH way.
Anyways, all squared away. I had some 3005 for 3+ years that I loved, but alas, need something bigger now. Love the 3XXX denim, but yes - it's quite funky with washing and trying not to shrink the crap out of them.
Looking forward to trying these out in the future!
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@Appfaff , if you just wash them on hot right up front they won't shrink any more after that, promise!
These are my 3005 back from Indigo Proof, really happy they fit exactly the same and I can't even feel the darning at all when I wear them.
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Thanks for the tip @grandmasterben - 3005's look Great!
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It's been a while since I had some Flat Heads in rotation. Sadly, the more recent runs have been True to Tag size raw, so even a 38 in most sizes for me is out of the question for me.
After seeing that I can make a 37" waist work pre-stretch, I decided to give the 3012 a try as the Leg Opening on the 3005 is quite large in my size (heck, I had the size down in the 3005 and it was still large for me).
Anyways, here are some post wash pics. I opted for a machine wash in cool water and a hang dry followed by a warm iron.
Sizing:
Raw / Post Wash
Waist: 39 / 36.8
Frise: 12.25 / 11.5
BRise: 17.5 / 16
Thigh: 14 / 13.75
Knee: – / 10.18
Leg Opening: 8.6 / 8
Inseam: 35 / 32.3Fit Pics:
Overall, it's an Odd Fit, but seems to works for me.
Thanks again to @Danny RnH from Rivet & Hide for the help with finding me the perfect pair.
Cheers,
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@sabergirl - my bad, i edited the post above. It started out right at 14 and dropped to about 13.75. In all actuality, I got almost the same measures post shrink on the 3012 as on my sz 38 UHR 666 after 4 washes - only difference is the leg opening on the 3012 is about 1.5 inch smaller. Ive had them on at the office for about 3 hours so far and they are already stretched out to be comfy.
@Jordan23 - thanks dude - I so wanted the 633 (i love your 633 fit btw!) cut to work for me, but the 17oz version is simply not tapered enough in my size after a hem. @Danny RnH was kind enough to do some measurements and math for me to let me know what I would be looking at in terms of the taper amount. I'm glad I went with these as they will work great with some driving Mocs and the new SS Burgundy IH Work Shirt this summer
