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We know you love IH, but where do you think we can improve?

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    xtcclassic
    啓蒙家
    Joined: 13 Feb 2012

    Regarding the motorcycle functionality thing, I totally get (and respect) that Iron Heart began as a motorcycle clothing company, and thus functionality while riding a motorcycle is an integral part of the identity of the company. That being said, the customer base has diversified quite a bit in the last few years, and I'd venture that a sizeable portion of the current customer base do not ride motorcycles. I would imagine that there are certain items that the motorcycle contingent have no interest in, and others that are nearly universally popular with them (in my mind, I see the 555/633/301 cuts being an example of the former, and the 634 cut being an example of the latter, although I may be wrong). If this is indeed the case, perhaps there are some items that could stray a bit from the motorcycle-centric elements and allow for slight tweaks to certain things like pocket size and placement, sleeve width and length, etc…

    Of course that puts us back to the "new cuts" conundrum.

    Seriously, though, it's amazing that you guys can are even asking us for input. This is one of the many things that make IH such a great company.

    last edited by 6 Nov 2014, 01:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      superfuzz
      Joined: 31 Dec 2012

      It would be nice if every shirt and jacket came in each size, and if IHUK got at least one of each size, XS-XXXL (or whatever). It seems kind of random which items get made in XS and which ones don't. And then sometimes IHUK doesn't stock XS in a particular item, as with the M65 this season. This is frustrating for smaller dudes like me. (Might be frustrating for large guys on the other end as well, I'm not sure). If IH consistently made XS I'd buy more IH jackets for sure.

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        Hematoma
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 22 Dec 2011

        @xtcclassic:

        Regarding the motorcycle functionality thing, I totally get (and respect) that Iron Heart began as a motorcycle clothing company, and thus functionality while riding a motorcycle is an integral part of the identity of the company. That being said, the customer base has diversified quite a bit in the last few years, and I'd venture that a sizeable portion of the current customer base do not ride motorcycles. I would imagine that there are certain items that the motorcycle contingent have no interest in, and others that are nearly universally popular with them (in my mind, I see the 555/633/301 cuts being an example of the former, and the 634 cut being an example of the latter, although I may be wrong). If this is indeed the case, perhaps there are some items that could stray a bit from the motorcycle-centric elements and allow for slight tweaks to certain things like pocket size and placement, sleeve width and length, etc…

        Of course that puts us back to the "new cuts" conundrum.

        Seriously, though, it's amazing that you guys can are even asking us for input. This is one of the many things that make IH such a great company.

        I think Giles (or someone else) has mentioned in the past that, within Japan, IH is still recognized as pretty much a rider's company.  Only in the West is it more of a fashion brand.  That doesn't mean more products can't be produced exclusively for non-riders, but that would have to be limited in my opinion (you still want to keep in line with a brand's identity).  Maybe Triple Works can be expanded with less of a riding focus?

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          Peter
          啓蒙家
          Joined: 6 Mar 2010

          Personally, I'd appreciate slightly larger shoulder measurements on the size small shirts/jackets. Sometimes they come up pretty small compared to the rest.

          last edited by 21 Nov 2014, 17:43 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            Snowy
            Joined: 15 Jun 2012

            I'd like to see YKK zippers dropped from the line up. I know they're strongly functional and of a high grade within YKK's gamut, so highly unlikely, however, I'd like to see other zippers. Maybe a pet peeve of mine, but a non-YKK zippers help sway me to purchases. It shows a blend of form and function, not just one or the other. I'd happily pay a few extra dollars for something without the YKK zipper.

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              Giles
              IHUK Crew
              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

              What's up with YKK? Serious question.

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                hajduk
                啓蒙家
                Joined: 14 Jul 2010

                Giles,
                Can it be possible for IHUK, to have human ressources in a near future to propose denim repairs on any IH products? Buttons, holes…full range of repairs. Level SE repairs or IHJP.
                I tried here in Europe, Denim Doc...few ones...nice people, contact. But patches is used and you have to call them, explain every single details, pay an amount included shipping rate quiet big...

                Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                "Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have" James Baldwin.

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                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                  We are in the process of sorting this out.  We have the singer darning machine now, we just need to get our arse into gear and get it all sorted…...

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    hajduk
                    啓蒙家
                    Joined: 14 Jul 2010

                    You know what Giles?
                    This is a great news! A really great one!  Seriously!

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                    "Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have" James Baldwin.

                    last edited by 23 Nov 2014, 11:04 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      gratefulmelon
                      Joined: 4 Nov 2010

                      ^Agreed! I've got a couple pair to send your way for repairs as soon as ya'll are ready.

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                        DougNg
                        Joined: 24 Sept 2009

                        I've said it before, I'll keep saying it: a Haraki interpretation of the MA-1

                        I know violence is not the answer, I got it wrong on purpose

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                          mclaincausey
                          見習いボス
                          Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                          I think YKK is the best zipper company in the world. Extremely vertically integrated, diverse, quality products at good price points. The IH two way on my car coat is outstanding.

                          Think it, be it.

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                            Snowy
                            Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                            @Giles:

                            What's up with YKK? Serious question.

                            @mclaincausey:

                            I think YKK is the best zipper company in the world. Extremely vertically integrated, diverse, quality products at good price points. The IH two way on my car coat is outstanding.

                            MCL, I agree they're the best zipper company in the world. They're a domination for sure, and consistently deliver reliable results on BILLION of items, no doubt there.

                            G, it's definitely emotional/personal. The feel of a Riri or Talon or other high end zipper (esp Riri as I've had a few more of those over the years), the touch is better in the hand, the smoothness when zipping is a 'zing' where you really feel it. I've never felt that with a YKK Zip. The IHSW-02 comes as close as I've had but not quite. Add at/near the price point I like the idea of a subtle show off for those 'in the know'. It's premium quality, best in the world clothing as is, the YKK zip doesn't give/show that nod.

                            It's not for functional reasons in short, and I doubt it'll get traction, but hey, it's the subject of the thread to discuss 🙂

                            last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 09:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Snowy
                              Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                              On YKK, interestingly enough;
                              Why YKK? - The mysterious Japanese company behind the world’s best zippers.
                              http://www.slate.com/articles/business/branded/2012/04/ykk_zippers_why_so_many_designers_use_them_.html

                              last edited by 8 Dec 2014, 08:52 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Megatron1505
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                                Having owned Visvim jackets with Riri zippers, and more recently jackets with the modern interpretation of Talon zippers, I would take YKK all day long. The smooth zipping action is nothing compared to the sheer toughness and longevity of YKK, purely down to this they are a much better fit for IH.

                                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                • ChrisC
                                  Chris
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                  The IHSH-91 has red bar tacking on the pockets and orange chainstitching on the inside of the placket.  I think it would look better if the colors matched, preferably both red.

                                  last edited by 8 Dec 2014, 23:09 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • SeulS
                                    Seul
                                    Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                                    ^Legit concern. Same for the 92.

                                    last edited by 9 Dec 2014, 10:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Snowy
                                      Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                                      @Megatron1505:

                                      Having owned Visvim jackets with Riri zippers, and more recently jackets with the modern interpretation of Talon zippers, I would take YKK all day long. The smooth zipping action is nothing compared to the sheer toughness and longevity of YKK, purely down to this they are a much better fit for IH.

                                      I get that, my original post still holds true as is too

                                      @Snowy:

                                      Maybe a pet peeve of mine, but a non-YKK zippers help sway me to purchases. It shows a blend of form and function, not just one or the other. I'd happily pay a few extra dollars for something without the YKK zipper.

                                      last edited by 9 Dec 2014, 11:23 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • 4c4
                                        4c
                                        Banned
                                        Joined: 26 Nov 2013

                                        ^ Feel the same way as snowy about YKK zippers.

                                        last edited by 9 Dec 2014, 19:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          mclaincausey
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 12 Apr 2013

                                          I don't think you can reasonably make broad statements about YKK. They have a hugely diversified portfolio and value chain. For example, the Universal zipper on my IH hoodie was manufactured in Kentucky by an old domestic fastener company, Universal, which was acquired by YKK.

                                          Think it, be it.

                                          last edited by 9 Dec 2014, 19:46 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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