We know you love IH, but where do you think we can improve?
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I would love to see more consistency in sizing. I'm sure it's an issue that you're constantly trying to improve but just figured it needed to be reiterated.
Also, I would love to see changes made to the tapering on size 35 and up, possibly size 34. Maybe, as you go up in waist size from the sample pattern, you can increase the taper from knee down. Once the waist gets past size 33-34 you see the hem increase dramatically. It rarely looks good on any inseam under 36in, in my opinion. I'm short so this makes it even worse. The only way for me to get Iron Heart jeans with a hem that doesn't dwarf my shoes is to get lucky with a "super skinny" cut that has a large enough thigh , which is very rare.
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Second that about waist
To hem ratio.
Seems strange to me that the only real cut that offers a comfy thigh and decent taper is the selfedge exclusive 633. -
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Re: more taper. For the time being we have the 633 and derivatives. So it is available. Given that there is a jean that fits the description, I have other cuts denims that are taking priority. Releasing a new jean requires at least a 100 pairs to be made, i actually have to cut down on cuts/denims, I don't have enough space to store the all or enough cash to invest in stock. So you will see a rationalisation of cuts/denims with some being dropped altogether.
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Agreed… honestly thats not really a constructive improvement imo. That just comes down to taste, and if you need the larger thighs you're probably better served with a completely straight cut anyway.... ok, over and out.
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@grandmasterben What so because someone has big thighs they automatically would want 9" hems and want to drown their shoes.?
Out of interest Giles what sizes sell the most in say 634's. Is it the smaller or larger sizes?
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33, 34, 36 & 38
But we sell a load of 40, 42 & 44
I do understand the taper issue. But Haraki will not change the 634S cut. Whether you or we like it or not, it is his signature cut and it will not change.
That means that I would have to release a new cut very similar to the 633, that is something I won't do.
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Re: more taper. For the time being we have the 633 and derivatives. So it is available. Given that there is a jean that fits the description, I have other cuts denims that are taking priority. Releasing a new jean requires at least a 100 pairs to be made, i actually have to cut down on cuts/denims, I don't have enough space to store the all or enough cash to invest in stock. So you will see a rationalisation of cuts/denims with some being dropped altogether.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, I don't think there needs to be any more cuts, especially with consistent sizing issues. I think the current cuts need to be modified from the knee down. The way straight leg cuts look on the larger sizes is much different than the smaller sizes. I'm sure some people will say, oh just lose weight or something but why is it that I can get great fits from many generic brands…
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I do understand the taper issue. But Haraki will not change the 634S cut. Whether you or we like it or not, it is his signature cut and it will not change
That makes sense.
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Yeah understand he wouldn't want to change his signature cut. That's fair enough.
Ok so something else is to offer a long and a short version of cuts so short people wouldn't lose the intended pattern. I am guessing this will incur more expensive for you so probably wouldn't be popular but would certain be a improvement from a shorter persons point of view. So many pairs of jeans I have had hemmed and been gutted with the result.
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I would love to see more consistency in sizing. I'm sure it's an issue that you're constantly trying to improve but just figured it needed to be reiterated.
Also, I would love to see changes made to the tapering on size 35 and up, possibly size 34. Maybe, as you go up in waist size from the sample pattern, you can increase the taper from knee down. Once the waist gets past size 33-34 you see the hem increase dramatically. It rarely looks good on any inseam under 36in, in my opinion. I'm short so this makes it even worse. The only way for me to get Iron Heart jeans with a hem that doesn't dwarf my shoes is to get lucky with a "super skinny" cut that has a large enough thigh , which is very rare.
amen to that, brotha!…
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I think the current cuts need to be modified from the knee down.
Thats a new cut
Cant just "tweak" current patterns G? Instead of making brand new cuts. I totally know what he is saying tho. I always like the hem on the 36's but the thigh is too small and the thigh is great on 38 but the waist and hem are too big. Maybe for me, a sz 37 would be the way to go lol. (I dont expect 37's to be made just for me) anyone else feel like a 37 would be perfect for you?
PS- would also love if all 3xl westerns were made from the same measurements as the IHSH-33 in 3xl
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@pillowPANTS have you tried the 1955 cut? That's a bit more accommodating in the thigh.
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Havent tried them Graeme but have checked them out. Bigger thigh then i need really. 36 would be good except the waist is small and everything on the 38 is too big except the hem lol
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Thx for the suggestion, but 55's are not for me. Rise is much too high for my liking (front and rear). Im not old enough to cover my belly button yet hahaha
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@grandmasterben What so because someone has big thighs they automatically would want 9" hems and want to drown their shoes.?
Out of interest Giles what sizes sell the most in say 634's. Is it the smaller or larger sizes?
i'm not saying they automatically do…but people who neeed to worry about thigh measurements (such as myself) generally have not stick-thin builds which imo look better with straight jeans. also, i manage ~9" hems and i only wear converse and not heavy boots.... just sayin...
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I have massive thighs from cycling, and am quite thin in the waist and calfs. Everyone is built differently. As I am also about 5'9 I would really appreciate a taper that takes inseam length into consideration as I have to hem to around 29" to get the length I like from a single cuff
